SalvdB Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 I have a pair of New Rock boots and the point beneath the ball of the foot has started to split clear across and up. This is the second pair I've had that died this way. Because of the depth of the split it's nigh on impossible to clean away any debris in the first place, in order to use glue, and I'm still to find any one that's up to the job as the split is right on a stress point. Can anyone recommend a specific glue/putty that might do the job? These boots are pretty unique, so I have no idea if a repair place would be able to help, but please say if I'm dead wrong there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityShoes Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 They’re hollow so glue won’t do much. A super glue would be a temporary fix. On some new rocks, the whole sole can be changed but it’s not cheap as NR charge a hefty premium for the soles SalvdB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 https://www.newrockonline.com/en/adornments/soles.html#limit=128&gan_data=true SalvdB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalvdB Posted July 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 38 minutes ago, SteelCityShoes said: They’re hollow so glue won’t do much. A super glue would be a temporary fix. On some new rocks, the whole sole can be changed but it’s not cheap as NR charge a hefty premium for the soles Until you said that, I'd never looked closely enough to see that they're hollow! And yeah, that's going to make the task nigh on impossible! Going on to the other comment... 20 minutes ago, Count Muppet said: https://www.newrockonline.com/en/adornments/soles.html#limit=128&gan_data=true I took a look and had no idea you could buy the soles separately, and it might even be worth it, but would any local shoe repair place even know where to start, replacing an entire New Rock sole? I fear that the cost of the replacement, plus shipping, plus whatever a specialist would charge would be more than I paid for the boots originally! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityShoes Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 You could ask locally for nothing. Where are you based? Someone on here could be near to you. In terms of cost, I charge anything up to £120 depending on the shoe and assuming it’s one I can get the parts for SalvdB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalvdB Posted July 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, SteelCityShoes said: You could ask locally for nothing. Where are you based? Someone on here could be near to you. In terms of cost, I charge anything up to £120 depending on the shoe and assuming it’s one I can get the parts for I'm in Northampton, so the heart of Shoe Country, which I guess might work in my favour... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, SalvdB said: I'm in Northampton, so the heart of Shoe Country, which I guess might work in my favour... I bet it won’t with shoes made like those are, you’d be better off living in China. SalvdB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Looking at the new soles it should be as simple as removing the old sole and glueing the next one on. probably a bit more difficult than normal though because of the thickness of them. You wouldn’t want to grind them because they’d create too much smoke, heating them off would be difficult because they are so thick. maybe they would cut off and scour flat nicely? they would probably struggle to fit on a sole press that wasn’t designed specifically for them so you might have to get fancy when pressing the soles on just got to hope the construction of the boot is strong enough to work with once the original sole is removed. kobblers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityShoes Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, Count Muppet said: Looking at the new soles it should be as simple as removing the old sole and glueing the next one on. probably a bit more difficult than normal though because of the thickness of them. You wouldn’t want to grind them because they’d create too much smoke, heating them off would be difficult because they are so thick. maybe they would cut off and scour flat nicely? they would probably struggle to fit on a sole press that wasn’t designed specifically for them so you might have to get fancy when pressing the soles on just got to hope the construction of the boot is strong enough to work with once the original sole is removed. That’s like telling your customer “you can get leather soles on eBay, should be simple to rebuild the shoe” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 He ain’t got the tools to do it though, I’m saying it’s not as easy as it looks and you could get to the stage where you think you’ve got it and all you’ve done is killed the boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David C Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Claim another exchange or refund and send them back to the seller. It's a design/manufacturing fault, not yours. They will claim it's a design 'limitation' but if you paid good money for a pair of boots they should last a good amount of miles. The skills exist in Northamptonshire (and probably Stoney Middleton) to make similar boots which would last a lifetime if the demand existed at a realistic price. You paid a premium for brand named boots which look fancy not for boots that wear and repair well. Only by returning them can you tell New Rock that they are not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 If you don't want to go to the expense of replacement soles, get a tube of Stormsure Urethane and squeeze that into the gap and let it dry for 24-48 hours. As long as the rubber has not gone porous and crumbly that may hold them for a while. Worth a go for less than a tenner!! SalvdB, grahamparker and keithm 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalvdB Posted July 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 11 hours ago, Count Muppet said: He ain’t got the tools to do it though, I’m saying it’s not as easy as it looks and you could get to the stage where you think you’ve got it and all you’ve done is killed the boot If by "he" you mean me, I'll point out that I'm not a "he". Even if I could afford the replacement soles, I wouldn't know where to start to affix a new one so I wouldn't try. At this point the boot is pretty close to killed anyway. 8 hours ago, David C said: Claim another exchange or refund and send them back to the seller. It's a design/manufacturing fault, not yours. They will claim it's a design 'limitation' but if you paid good money for a pair of boots they should last a good amount of miles. The skills exist in Northamptonshire (and probably Stoney Middleton) to make similar boots which would last a lifetime if the demand existed at a realistic price. You paid a premium for brand named boots which look fancy not for boots that wear and repair well. Only by returning them can you tell New Rock that they are not good enough. These are yeeeaaars old, so claiming design/manufacturing fault wouldn't be likely to get me anywhere. I wasn't saying they broke quickly, just they broke in the same way my last pair did. 36 minutes ago, Michael said: If you don't want to go to the expense of replacement soles, get a tube of Stormsure Urethane and squeeze that into the gap and let it dry for 24-48 hours. As long as the rubber has not gone porous and crumbly that may hold them for a while. Worth a go for less than a tenner!! Yeah, I'm sure not going to go through the expense of a process which would likely cost me more than I initially paid. At this point they're about a month away from being trashed anyway, so I'll give your suggestion a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityShoes Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 Give it a try, if it doesn’t work don’t scrap the shoes as they are repairable, in the future you might be able to find a local guy who will do it for something around £100, that’s still about a third of the price of new boots plus they’re already broken in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalvdB Posted July 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 Just now, SteelCityShoes said: Give it a try, if it doesn’t work don’t scrap the shoes as they are repairable, in the future you might be able to find a local guy who will do it for something around £100, that’s still about a third of the price of new boots plus they’re already broken in I got mine on sale for £110, and they're £150 new on Amazon now, so I think it'll be self-repair, or save for a year and buy new ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityShoes Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 Nice one. Last time I saw those in a shop here they were pushing 300, can’t remember the exact price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 30 minutes ago, SalvdB said: If by "he" you mean me, I'll point out that I'm not a "he". Even if I could afford the replacement soles, I wouldn't know where to start to affix a new one so I wouldn't try. At this point the boot is pretty close to killed anyway. Sorry. Shouldn’t have assumed. the stormsure is a good idea. I think I’ve seen it for sale at hobbycraft and maybe camping shops or Halfords. SalvdB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 Amazon. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stormsure-S1B-Outdoor-Adhesive-Waterproof/dp/B003V71R6A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1532079269&sr=8-1&keywords=stormsure It is very runny so if there is a big hole below the split try to pack it with some material otherwise all the glue will just run inside. Wear gloves as it does not come off very easy at all, but it is great glue and sticks really well. If you can use masking/insulating tape on the tread then put the boot sole down so the glue does not run out and it will run into the gap. SalvdB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 Bigger tube in black also available. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stormsure-Black-28g-tube-blistercard/dp/B01BNLL2LU/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1532079269&sr=8-4&keywords=stormsure SalvdB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalvdB Posted July 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 minute ago, grahamparker said: Bigger tube in black also available. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stormsure-Black-28g-tube-blistercard/dp/B01BNLL2LU/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1532079269&sr=8-4&keywords=stormsure Fantastic! Black would definitely be a better option. Thanks for the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisorros Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 If your doing the DIY root i would say quicksohl would be better to use on larger holes than stormsure. https://www.amazon.co.uk/QuickSohl-QUICKSOHL-black/dp/B003BNXK3C/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_309_t_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=X0H2C3JVP3PX011MR5X8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfman Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 me i would remove the sole unit fill split with either stormsure aor quick sohl hack out the honeycomb centre fill it with a light weight micro and put the unit back on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted July 23, 2018 Report Share Posted July 23, 2018 I'd chuck em in the bin #hiddious lol Deanzke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted July 23, 2018 Report Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 hours ago, ironplanet uk900 said: I'd chuck em in the bin #hiddious lol A few years ago you'd have repaired them and posted a tutorial lol Gray, Deanzke, keithm and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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