Peter@CopyCut Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Hi Guys, I have started thinking about employing some help, there are two options getting someone experienced or training someone from scratch. I'm not even sure if it's even possible to find someone who can cut keys, do passport photos etc. Although anyone can do both after couple of months. What is your experience with staff? Would you employ skilled person or train somebody? In addition I guess it's cheaper to train somebody, as people usually only move for more money. Many thanks, Peter kobblers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Friend Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 I trained several, most turned out to be lazy - I was away a lot doing outwork and often wondered why stuff never got done- So a CCTV system sitting reading a paper with feet on my desk locking up and going to the amusment shop next door taking cash from the till arriving late never putting stock away But I expect if your there to supervise that will not happen but once trained - they are 'experianced' and go looking for another job or starting up on their own Never ever again earlsdoncobbler, cobblers.keys and grahamparker 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gardner Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 For shop work find a good experienced guy that you know or can be recommended it will be worth the £100 or so more than a trainee Craig kobblers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 Another forum member in the same town has been selling off key machines so they can retire. Maybe they would be willing to work a couple of days a week or possibly had someone working with them that would want to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter@CopyCut Posted March 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 Another forum member in the same town has been selling off key machines so they can retire. Maybe they would be willing to work a couple of days a week or possibly had someone working with them that would want to do it? Mhh, no thanks, not sure what to say, maybe different guy, but the one who is packing up recently, how to say it...I need my customers to be happy, these are different times. So, went to Timpsons today, to cut couple keys (research), there was a young lad, behind the counter, very nice, spotted problematic key straight away, yet wanted to try it, I've decided though not to cut this one, as it wouldn't work, no one ever did this key correctly, ever. Did anyone pinched somebody from Timpsons? Are they paid well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 Can't remember where I saw it, and I can't remember the exact wording, but it said that most managers will be expected to earn at least £28k. So that's about £540pw + pension, holidays and sickness. Although, I don't know anyone getting £540 basic per week. I think average wage before bonus is probably around £350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris Polan Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 from the perspective of 20 years with my employer, I will say that money is important, compatibility characters and the atmosphere at work. Overall, however, I do not know many such cases. Most employers ageing and doing more and more scarce as well as employees get older and are getting more greedy Kris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 So, went to Timpsons today, to cut couple keys (research), there was a young lad, behind the counter, very nice, spotted problematic key straight away, yet wanted to try it, I've decided though not to cut this one, as it wouldn't work, no one ever did this key correctly, ever. Really struggling to decipher this paragraph. What happened at Timpsons? You brought in a key that you've never had cut successfully and the lad wanted to give it a go knowing that it wouldn't be easy? I'm lost after that and I'm not totally sure I've got the story straight before that either! k4mrc and kobblers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Mhh, no thanks, not sure what to say, maybe different guy, but the one who is packing up recently, how to say it...I need my customers to be happy, these are different times. So, went to Timpsons today, to cut couple keys (research), there was a young lad, behind the counter, very nice, spotted problematic key straight away, yet wanted to try it, I've decided though not to cut this one, as it wouldn't work, no one ever did this key correctly, ever. Did anyone pinched somebody from Timpsons? Are they paid well? Bet you i could do it !!!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Lol. Upload a photo. We all want to see it now Amlocks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightonkeys Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 Lol. Upload a photo. We all want to see it now Gone very quiet in here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter@CopyCut Posted March 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 Sorry been busy cutting keys at Timpsons Anyway, I do go to competition a lot, spend £10 and 10 minutes there chatting, looking around the shop or just observing from the outside for a while. And yes I do cut keys there and pay for it, no problem. If the shop is doing well and I can find out why and replicate it than it's great, sometimes I see some stock which I've never thought about. It's my business so I need to know what is happening at the competing local stores, at least within 20 miles around. When we first opened, I had spies from all photo shops around, then key people, personalised gifts shops etc. I want to stay in business and keep my employees happy. If we can improve something, we do it as often as we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Sorry been busy But what about this mystery key? That's what we wanted an update on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Sorry been busy cutting keys at Timpsons Anyway, I do go to competition a lot, spend £10 and 10 minutes there chatting, looking around the shop or just observing from the outside for a while. And yes I do cut keys there and pay for it, no problem. If the shop is doing well and I can find out why and replicate it than it's great, sometimes I see some stock which I've never thought about. It's my business so I need to know what is happening at the competing local stores, at least within 20 miles around. When we first opened, I had spies from all photo shops around, then key people, personalised gifts shops etc. I want to stay in business and keep my employees happy. If we can improve something, we do it as often as we can. Concentrate on your own business and let others worry about what you do. Oh yes, and as NY keys said lets see this mystery uncuttable key. k4mrc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter@CopyCut Posted March 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Three times lucky ... here it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Still not showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Such a tease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter@CopyCut Posted March 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 I can't upload a photo and I could only share it from one drive, sorry. Maybe I need few more posts for it to work. Will def upload it for you it will be great fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 I can't upload a photo and I could only share it from one drive, sorry. Maybe I need few more posts for it to work. Will def upload it for you it will be great fun. Email it me and I will upload it for you. richardopensevale@yahoo.co.uk Rick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 He emailed it to me. Here it is. Looks a tricky one alright. mrkeys and kobblers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 kobblers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavin Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 I cant wait to retire ........lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzke Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter@CopyCut Posted March 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 He emailed it to me. Here it is. Looks a tricky one alright. I didn't Emailed you, but if you are that cocky see my new post with the photo of the key, and see how small you are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 and see how small you are? Steady on lad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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