abababa Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 The local housing association have started fitting new doors around the area and they are coming with these locks. Anyone any idea of the correct blank? I've gone through catalogues and online but I'm not having much luck. Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Nightmare. abababa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 http://www.secure-arc.com/ Genuine only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abababa Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Thanks chaps... after speaking to secure-arc.com/, I think this is going to be a nightmare to try and get these. They wont supply them to me. They referred me to a company in Dublin, who wont supply them to me either. They are calling me back to see if i can get a price on them being cut and posted out to me individually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 ARC themselves are fine to deal with, but the builder's merchants, architectural ironmongery companies etc who sit in the middle are frequently appalling to deal with. They often haven't a clue how to go about getting copies made and it can take weeks and weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abababa Posted January 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 So they got back to me. They will deal with me in respect to sending me out keys, if i send them the code. Approx £7.00 per key plus £8.50 postage. If i add a few quid on for my troubles id need to be charging close to £20.00 per key. Don't suppose anyone knows of a regular blank that will pass? Though i'll probably end up just offering a cylinder change. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon1 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Easy Entry Machine is best solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abababa Posted January 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 you have one Simon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 So they got back to me. They will deal with me in respect to sending me out keys, if i send them the code. Approx £7.00 per key plus £8.50 postage. If i add a few quid on for my troubles id need to be charging close to £20.00 per key. Don't suppose anyone knows of a regular blank that will pass? Though i'll probably end up just offering a cylinder change. Thanks That's cheap. Don't ever try and order BKS keys, just over £50.00 each with carriage and vat and that was my cost !!!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon1 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Yes I have one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 That's cheap. I think it's ridiculous that we all (from end-customer, to builder, to key cutting middleman) accept this profiteering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 Lol. Don't we take 10pence blanks and turn them into £5 keys? keithm, Bren and Broms Cobb 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 If you cant beat them, join them. I currently have 3 of my own section key blanks and cylinders although i do want regular return customers so i do not take the michael. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 Lol. Don't we take 10pence blanks and turn them into £5 keys? If Timpsons only costs is the blank itself, they've got something truly magical going on for them. I on the other hand have to deduct the VAT, then pay insurance, rent, heating, rates, machinery, cost of occasional new blades, staff etc etc etc. I also don't charge a £5 for a key. I charge £3. It's disingenuous to suggest that making an honest profit is the same as profiteering, Mr Muppet. brightonkeys, grahamparker and kobblers 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 If you cant beat them, join them. I currently have 3 of my own section key blanks and cylinders although i do want regular return customers so i do not take the michael. Interesting. Who do you go through for this? Brisant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 Interesting. Who do you go through for this? Brisant? I have an old (now discontinued) 5 pin Abus.section. We only cut keys on this now as new stock is no longer available. I also cuurently use a 6 pin Anker cylinder from Codringtons as well as a totally restricted Abus Pfaffenhain suite. We assemble all stock in house unless it is more than 20 cylinders then i get the suppliers to do the job for me. I also have approx 30 x Evva DPS master suites which we have supplied as well as a Brisant Ultion master suite. There are also a few Esla NG suites and some Cisa Astral and Cisa 5 pin suites that we have also supplied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelf Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Hi, has anyone found a solution on these arc keys, thanks, paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Hi, has anyone found a solution on these arc keys, thanks, paul As above: sometimes you can buy direct from SecureArc, sometimes you can't and have to run the gauntlet of the various middle-men at architectural hardware companies who are not really trained/ready to take the order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobblerjoe Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 why not ask customer to bring lock in so you can see if you have anythink close i do this regular sometime will some wont but then moan about price landlord wants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damen.rudi Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Have you tried to put a key into a Camillo Bianchi or a Silca Lector, Optika machine. Often these machines give you alternatives that will fit into the lock. Worst case scenario, the machine gives an image of a key you can modify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL PRICE Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 coming back to these ARC RR series restricted blanks.... has anyone sorted a supplier for these? local housing Ass. fitted them into a hundred or so local OAP flats with 2 keys each,many of the old folks want extra for families,nurses etc & the HA wont supply.i've suggested key safes but most are not interested. i've tried ARC themselves & they gave me details of a supplier but several messages on mobile,office & email but no replies.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 8 hours ago, BIG AL PRICE said: i've tried ARC themselves & they gave me details of a supplier but several messages on mobile,office & email but no replies.... If you go back to Arc and explain the situation they can usually help. DM me for more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at Vauxhall Posted November 8, 2021 Report Share Posted November 8, 2021 Knew there was something about these keys, but couldn't find straightaway on the forum. So cut one on a UL2R, so looks like that's coming back. Lol. Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at Vauxhall Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 4:44 PM, cowers lane 583 said: Knew there was something about these keys, but couldn't find straightaway on the forum. So cut one on a UL2R, so looks like that's coming back. Lol. Mike. Customer still hasn't come back. Also, separately, cut 3 of this, 2 on UL2R and one on CI-IL, for a regular customer, early last week. Asked for any feed back. He hasn't got back to me either. Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, cowers lane 583 said: Customer still hasn't come back. Also, separately, cut 3 of this, 2 on UL2R and one on CI-IL, for a regular customer, early last week. Asked for any feed back. He hasn't got back to me either. Mike. You are talking about the standard section ARC blank, we use silca UL051, we have a nursing home up the road and have cut loads of them. They brought a lock in when we first started been asked to cut them and UL051 was the best fit. Mike at Vauxhall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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