Homecare Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Hi We are looking at getting a mortice key cutting machine and I'm just after a bit of advice What are the dual machines like (cylinder and mortice)? We are currently running the Bianchi keyline easy cylinder machine, this is a great machine and touch wood we've never had a single issue with it. The Mortice machine we have been offered is a RST MK2 TM1011 and I was wondering if anyone had any experiences with this machine? Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkybob Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 mk 11 is the mortice machine i started with, got a keyline rs 206 now. wish i still had the mk11. Be aware that the dual machines dont cut side wards which accounts for about 20% of the mortice keys I cut lots of people say the lancer is best but i have no experience with the lancer so cannot pass judgment on it bob Homecare 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Lancer is the best. Homecare and kobblers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 The Lancer is the best of the best. Rick. Homecare 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x minit uk Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Lancer mk 1 is the best. Homecare 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Blade Vectis is the best Mortice machine ever made, i have 3 and a Lancer plus and the Blade Vectis is a beast of a machine even though they are all 30+ years old. Best machine available today though is the Lancer plus. Homecare 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsy9 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Got both the mk2 and lancer and would recommend both. Lancer is more sturdy than the mk2 but both good machines. Homecare 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom D Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 think ive used a jakey mk 2 for years its like a favorite pair of shoes (you just slip into it ) so to speak . the other day I was visiting a friend he got busy with a while you wait , so I steped in to cut 2 keys for him the cylinder key was fine , but I'm afraid I couldn't get the hang of the lancer( too set in my ways I suppose) Homecare 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homecare Posted September 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Quick update Thanks for all the responses, we've discounted the multi machine and are now looking between the RST mk 2 and the Lancer Plus. It looks like the Lancer plus is a very well liked machine however its cost might be a bit steep for the volume of mortice keys we get asked for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Fix Elgin Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Think of it like this If you buy the Lancer it will hold a good resale value forever and a day, if you look after the Lancer you will get back 50% of the retail value of that machine after many years of good service So really your buying the Lancer for half retail price in the long term. kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Quick update Thanks for all the responses, we've discounted the multi machine and are now looking between the RST mk 2 and the Lancer Plus. It looks like the Lancer plus is a very well liked machine however its cost might be a bit steep for the volume of mortice keys we get asked for. Most suppliers will be able to offer some form of leasing option if you don't want to buy it for 1 full payment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebbo Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 I must say we like our Lancer, I keep it well oiled so with luck it'll last a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Friend Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 there are a few on here who like to be well oiled! kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobblerjoe Posted September 25, 2017 Report Share Posted September 25, 2017 hi mate iam selling some machines if your interested they are on ebay ay moment check them out item number is 272849031518 cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxfer Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 I have the RST 1011 and it has served me well. No real complaints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Dinnage Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 Interesting to read other established key cutters opinons here. I have a sturdy solid Ilco Rigel for cutting my cylinder keys, while a Tempest in the van for quick 'on the job' extras. Looking around for the Jakey as it seems to be called although as a RST TM1011 seems to be its makers reference from cotilneykeyscouk Not really interested in another dual machine as these are either like the Tempest needing to change cutters or restrictive on what the mortice side can cut. I am workshop based and a mobile locksmith, no retail sales, looking for a dedicated mortice and ward cutting machine on the used market to add to what I have. Most of my clients are commercial or managing agents that are after lock changes, (mainly cylinders), with lots of keys required for the residents and such like. Have had some good support from others in the industry, willing to share experiences and advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 Keep your eyes peeled for a second hand lancer plus. They are more expensive for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Davis Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 I have a used Lancer and a Used Lancer plus for sale if they are of any use to anybody, both in perfect working order, situated near Harlow in Essex, Lancer @ £650.00 Lancer plus @ £1150.00 Regards Mark Tel 07956 345006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Dinnage Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 I now have a Jakey, solid heavy tool, working well with that at my base for the mortice keys, while my Ilco Rigel a study machine for cylinder keys. That Tempest was a tiny machine in comparison and just right for tucking in the van to get the odd cylinder key cut whilst on the job. Been offered another mortice machine, looked at first glance the same make as the Orion Rigel. Otherwise its finding certain blanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobblers.keys Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 I have a spare lancer plus for sale. Looking to sell for around £1100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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