abababa Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 I've been reading the threads on these and have cut hundreds on the futura over the last few years with very few returns but out of the last dozen, I've had 3 different returns because the key won't fully go in the lock...all relitivly new doors... I'm sure if it got in, it would work... All have been remedied by recutting the key and doing the snake cut manually. Those sharp points on the first cut must be catching before the last pin. Has anyone had any feedback from Silca on this? @Matt@Silca are you aware of this? Cheers P.s Futura key is the top one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 If the original key is available it always seems to be better to cut the C manually. It’s quicker and more accurate abababa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Count Muppet said: It’s quicker and more accurate Not when cutting on a Triax it isn't. We have cut well over a 1000 of these on the Triax and not had 1 back, i did have some early issues with the keys been a little tight when turning in the lock but i have manually adjusted all my cutting cards to cut the Z axis -10 deeper and that cured the problem. I only use either Keyline or Silca blanks and change the cutter when any burrs start to appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abababa Posted January 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Count Muppet said: If the original key is available it always seems to be better to cut the C manually. It’s quicker and more accurate You're right but i can do other things while it's cutting so it's handy for me being by myself 1 minute ago, grahamparker said: Not when cutting on a Triax it isn't. We have cut well over a 1000 of these on the Triax and not had 1 back, i did have some early issues with the keys been a little tight when turning in the lock but i have manually adjusted all my cutting cards to cut the Z axis -10 deeper and that cured the problem. I only use either Keyline or Silca blanks and change the cutter when any burrs start to appear. Graham. Would your triax have cut the tip of the key the same as the futura in the pic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, grahamparker said: Not when cutting on a Triax it isn't. We have cut well over a 1000 of these on the Triax and not had 1 back, i did have some early issues with the keys been a little tight when turning in the lock but i have manually adjusted all my cutting cards to cut the Z axis -10 deeper and that cured the problem. I only use either Keyline or Silca blanks and change the cutter when any burrs start to appear. I thought he had a futura? takes around 30 secs per key manually or nearly 5 mins per key on futura. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abababa Posted January 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 40 minutes ago, Count Muppet said: I thought he had a futura? takes around 30 secs per key manually or nearly 5 mins per key on futura. I do have the Futura... and it is slow.... but personally id like to do it automatically on the furtua without any major problems...or at least have the option to do it without this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 2 hours ago, abababa said: You're right but i can do other things while it's cutting so it's handy for me being by myself Graham. Would your triax have cut the tip of the key the same as the futura in the pic? Not sure to be honest I just cut them and either post or sell them. Next one I cut I will take a photo to show how it cuts them abababa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Cut on the Triax, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abababa Posted January 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, grahamparker said: Cut on the Triax, Cheers. Doesn't look too different from the futura. Be interesting to try it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock Stock Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 There's two cards on Silca under superior you want to use the (+) version, it has 4 heights just ignore the 4th and use the 3rd as the deepest. I have only once had to use the other card but its not a problem as its cuts are deeper and key will over cut. abababa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abababa Posted January 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/23/2019 at 5:42 PM, Lock Stock said: There's two cards on Silca under superior you want to use the (+) version, it has 4 heights just ignore the 4th and use the 3rd as the deepest. I have only once had to use the other card but its not a problem as its cuts are deeper and key will over cut. Thanks for the reply. What card number is this? I can only see the (+) cards 3826 which relate to the dimple cuts and not the laser cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Tony Davenport Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 On 1/12/2019 at 12:32 PM, abababa said: I've been reading the threads on these and have cut hundreds on the futura over the last few years with very few returns but out of the last dozen, I've had 3 different returns because the key won't fully go in the lock...all relitivly new doors... I'm sure if it got in, it would work... All have been remedied by recutting the key and doing the snake cut manually. Those sharp points on the first cut must be catching before the last pin. Has anyone had any feedback from Silca on this? @Matt@Silca are you aware of this? Cheers P.s Futura key is the top one Sorry this is Not the machine you are asking on your reply. ,But May help as details are close on the Keyline Ninja Total as well . Kind Regards Tony Wilkin Direct Tel: 07572 216446 Email: twilkin@davenport-burgess.com e: sales@davenport-burgess.com w: www.davenport-burgess.com FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: Facebook | Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abababa Posted February 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Technical Tony / Davenport said: Sorry this is Not the machine you are asking on your reply. ,But May help as details are close on the Keyline Ninja Total as well . Hi Technical Tony / Davenport, Ive been looking at your previous posts. You seem to be a member of Davenports? Your last posts on here were on October 2018 and your reply above is so generic, its unreal. If you want to provide people with technical support (as your username would suggest) may i suggest you frequent more regularly and actually try to help people rather than snowball generic replies, once in a blue moon.... to old threads; subtly pushing your products. I know they wont as they want to create an unbiased platform, but if i was the owner of this forum, i would ban you in a second for blatant advertising with no genuine intent to assist. Just my two cents... Technical Tony Davenport, eimco, x minit uk and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 PMd you, abababa rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 How did you get on with the key I sent ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abababa Posted February 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 6 hours ago, grahamparker said: How did you get on with the key I sent ?. she hasn't came back yet... but I want to pay regardless so pm me or email me the price. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Tony Davenport Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 17 hours ago, abababa said: Hi Technical Tony / Davenport, Ive been looking at your previous posts. You seem to be a member of Davenports? Your last posts on here were on October 2018 and your reply above is so generic, its unreal. If you want to provide people with technical support (as your username would suggest) may i suggest you frequent more regularly and actually try to help people rather than snowball generic replies, once in a blue moon.... to old threads; subtly pushing your products. I know they wont as they want to create an unbiased platform, but if i was the owner of this forum, i would ban you in a second for blatant advertising with no genuine intent to assist. Just my two cents... I believe I myself have been on this forum since the day it started, Technical John now Technical Tony , Can't even think how many years this has been now . Sadly I have been busy away hence not posting more recently, but hope you can see my dedication over the years rather than over the last 2 or 3 months I have to keep replies “generic “ so NOT to advertise , but I do sometime pick older posts to help with replies, as if it’s a problem for one it will be most likely will be for others . As mentioned above , I Hope my many years / Posts and advice on this Forum is proof of Personal dedication , and many more years . Have to say thank you you got me thinking how long I have been posting ... 685 posts so far ........ Kind Regards Tony Wilkin Direct Tel: 07572 216446 Email: twilkin@davenport-burgess.com e: sales@davenport-burgess.com w: www.davenport-burgess.com FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: Facebook | Twitter keithm, simon1 and Mike at Vauxhall 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 I concur with Tony, I've known him years and is only here to help Technical Tony Davenport 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Tony Davenport Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, keithm said: I concur with Tony, I've known him years and is only here to help Thank you for your kind reply , one day I may have as many posts as you do Kind Regards Tony Wilkin Direct Tel: 07572 216446 Email: twilkin@davenport-burgess.com e: sales@davenport-burgess.com w: www.davenport-burgess.com FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: Facebook | Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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