What series of key are these pre-cuts from?

[NYKeys]

They're NOT from the Gibbons range I have.

[Count Muppet]

Pretty sure they are from a Yale rim lock

[grahamparker]

Cheap ass piece of crap series.

[Auto Key Wizard]

We cut them using universal rim and charge £10 for the privilege.

[Michael]

  On 4/17/2017 at 9:45 PM, Auto Key Wizard said:

We cut them using universal rim and charge £10 for the privilege.

Same here!

[NYKeys]

  On 4/18/2017 at 8:47 AM, michael26uk said:

Same here!

Wow - that's an expensive key. We only charge £5. Are all your universal rim £10?

[Michael]

Normal mortice £8 + bit of filing by hand and measuring/checking = £10

[Auto Key Wizard]

Remember when cutting these 5/8, 3/4 bit keys, it will shorten cutter life, hence the charge.

 

Both face and ward cutters are usually needed.

[brightonkeys]

  On 4/18/2017 at 10:30 AM, Auto Key Wizard said:

Remember when cutting these 5/8, 3/4 bit keys, it will shorten cutter life, hence the charge.

 

Both face and ward cutters are usually needed.

 

Because of the mass of material needed to be cut away before the cutting to the bit can begin? I have a solution to that. I rough dimension first using a hacksaw.

[jacko]

Why do you need to cut pre cuts ?

[NYKeys]

  On 4/18/2017 at 5:38 PM, jacko said:

Why do you need to cut pre cuts ?

 

Can't find the pre-cuts available to buy

[grahamparker]

http://www.aldridgesecurity.co.uk/p-1267-asec-mortice-pre-cut-blank-to-suit-gibbons-23g-ts230.aspx

 

Lists them as suitable for the Yale 23G/47/60 Series

[NYKeys]

  On 4/19/2017 at 9:14 AM, grahamparker said:

http://www.aldridgesecurity.co.uk/p-1267-asec-mortice-pre-cut-blank-to-suit-gibbons-23g-ts230.aspx

 

Lists them as suitable for the Yale 23G/47/60 Series

 

Hmmm. Now I'm confused. Because I have this set of pre-cuts on my boards and they invariably don't even nearly resemble the keys customers bring in stamped 'C13' for example.

[Mick Friend]

i WOULD HAVE SAID

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GIBBONS-YALE-PRE-CUT-MORTICE-KEY-SUIT-RIM-LOCKS-7-12-AND-C13-C24-SERIES-/151517451912

[NYKeys]

  On 4/19/2017 at 1:30 PM, Mick Friend said:

i WOULD HAVE SAID

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GIBBONS-YALE-PRE-CUT-MORTICE-KEY-SUIT-RIM-LOCKS-7-12-AND-C13-C24-SERIES-/151517451912

 

MICK ANY THOUGHTS ON THE ISSUE REGARDING WHAT SERIES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? 

[Mick Friend]

I did think Gibbons, but the Yale seems to crop up -I know you only need one to make it a master though

[Mick Friend]

davenports list them as 

K477 YALE GIBBONS RIM PRECUT

[keyman]

These are a different series of keys to the old Gibbons / Yale / Century rim keys. I have seen quite a few before, and still do now, none resemble our precut keys. If memory serves, they are a different gauge too, so no cheeky 'adapting' of precuts either. More's the pity.

 

Hacksaw key bit down to required height. Cut bit, sidewards and all, then trim shaft to required length or you'll have your customer telling you "that's not going to work, the end is too long", despite you wasting no end of oxygen and energy explaining that the end of the key will be going into fresh air!

 

This is why Terry is charging a tenner a pop. I don't, if only I could.

[grahamparker]

Where are you all buying these super tough rim blanks from ?. I buy mine from Aldridges and cut the keys on the machine really easy 5/8 bit takes 1 1/2 minute tops.

 

We charge £6.95 inc vat.

[NYKeys]

  On 4/20/2017 at 6:20 AM, grahamparker said:

Where are you all buying these super tough rim blanks from ?.

 

SKS SKS SKS

 

 

  On 4/20/2017 at 1:19 AM, keyman said:

These are a different series of keys to the old Gibbons / Yale / Century rim keys.[...] , none resemble our precut keys.[...] they are a different gauge too, so no cheeky 'adapting' of precuts either.

 

Thank you! Finally!!