keithm Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Having sold an unusually large number of patchers recently, is this work on the up? I remember making a fortune some weeks stitching new elastics and re-stitching brogue uppers Mind you, it took me a while before finding out that a long arm patcher existed Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenB Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Can't say I've noticed any particular change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Having sold an unusually large number of patchers recently, is this work on the up? I remember making a fortune some weeks stitching new elastics and re-stitching brogue uppers Mind you, it took me a while before finding out that a long arm patcher existed Keith Why does one need a Long Arm to stitch elastics and Brogues Keith? Where have all these Patchers been going to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted August 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 You don't need a long arm to stitch basic stuff Hugh but they're bloody handy on a thigh length boot 6 out of the last 11 customers have purchased Long arm patchers! Maybe they're expecting a lot of boots and baggage in over the winter months Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 OR they have been listening to Hughs doom doom and doom philosophies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 If your in the market for a patching machine, you may as well buy a long arm reather than a short arm. Probably a case of repairers wising up to the fashion, long boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Have to disagree in part because the long arm has a larger shuttle box carrying a larger bobbin. while this is fine and advantageous for many jobs it does not allow you to get down into the toe area as far as a short arm one does, due to the width and depth. The long arm Adler on the other hand has a small Singer short arm type shuttle box and gives the best of both worlds, that's why I asked the question, Singer or Adler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Both mine, long arm and short are singer, I havn't noticed any difference in the size of the shuttle, I'll take a look tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 There are some long arm Singers about that have a small bobbin, but these are not the norm, a couple of manufacturers have them for remedial work. I think that the short arm end has been put onto the long arm end using the long arm racks and pinions, if this makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 I don't think any of this technical stuff's got anything to do with why Keiths sold alot of long arm patchers, Although I don't disagree that the bobbins might be smaller in some machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted September 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Blimey, when I posted this I didn't expect such a reaction. Adler long arm patchers are very goo, reliable and extremely useful. Singer patchers are in very short supply, but I have a new option on them from the far east. they appear to be very good in operation and have so far caused no problems with reliability while they've been on test. As far as 'pushing' Adlers because they are in stock, forget it. Second hand/recon are also in short supply. Unless you want to buy a new one, around £4000 on a stand Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted September 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 As far as testing is concerned, lets just say it's a multiple. It's a copy of the 29k and has been very good so far. They can be motorised and bench mounted if required. If you would like more information either e-mail or PM me and I'll do what I can to assist Singer long arms in decent working order are very rare now. However, getting reliable parts for them is a bit hit and miss in our experiance. Therefore, we prefer the Adler route, the 30/10 model in particular, as there is no problem with parts and they are ultra reliable. The £4000 ish, includes a base and motor!! These machines can actually create more revenue than your blake machine in most shops! Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Taken over a the lifetime of the machine, this is the most profitable piece of equipment in the Repair trade. (not counting any machines in any other services). So it's chinese then I'll stick with what I've got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted September 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Exactly Hugh, so £4000 not so expensive But if you don't have the budget, there is a viable alternative at the other end of the scale! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Exactly Hugh, so £4000 not so expensive But if you don't have the budget, there is a viable alternative at the other end of the scale! Certainly is! it's a used Adler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted September 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 If you can find one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 just to put in my pennys' worth here, you can get singers and adler long and short arm with large or small bobbins, we have most types available from stock ready to be reconditioned. we also sell new Claes (Textima) patchers which we will be showing at Sandown, we have sold these already and the customers have been very pleased with them despite the cost (quite a bit less than 4000 with motorised base) we have also been looking at imported new heads mainly chinese or taiwanese but they are not as good and quantities would have to be stocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Taken over a the lifetime of the machine, this is the most profitable piece of equipment in the Repair trade. (not counting any machines in any other services). So it's chinese then I'll stick with what I've got my hammers been the most profitable piece of equipment, every two hits gets me £4.99 And I nicked it from Mr minit 20 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 my brain and hands are more profitable you nicked a hammer???????????? shame on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 They owed it me Rick, They only paid me £56 a week Deanzke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 And I nicked it from Mr minit 20 years ago If it's a Barnsley London pattern No2 it's mine. Was nicked from Tewkesbury branch in the late 80's along with some other of my own tools, I was on a weeks leave at the time & the relief guy turns up with out any tools at all, so I left a few basics, he asked about my knife, I told him to sod off, I'm not leaving that here so you can grind it away on the naum keg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Shit ov grassed meself up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfman Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 talking about hammers the one i have been using for the last 20 years i cant put amake to the only visable markings on it is a circle of words with a swastika in the centre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Sounds interesting!!!! Any chance of a picture shoing the detail? Hope you did not nick it from a well known company still in existance in other countries. UK900 has admitted theft on an internation site,, could he be prostituted by Tel or Minit ? I can just see UK90s new service addition. MAILBAGS SEWN WHILE-U-WAIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 What a difference a new patcher makes! had my "new" patcher ( motorised long arm singer)now for a fortnight everything is just so much easier than my old singer which was cawed by hand BRAVO SISERVE brilliant bit of kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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