elfman Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 have to agree with rick and gray here lee ,its not always possable to stick to the timing , but the main thing you have to remember is that nearly all modern day glues have the same selling or marketing point and that is qoute " can be left for 24 t0 48 hours and be heat reactivated " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x minit uk Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 I am with rick on this one 30 + years using contact glue and never had a problem with my method. Some times you just have to re- heat. Not sure if there is a right or wrong way though, each to their own really . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Looks like you have to find you own way and STICK to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 I am with rick on this one 30 + years using contact glue and never had a problem with my method. Some times you just have to re- heat. Not sure if there is a right or wrong way though, each to their own really . =D> =D> =D> Rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 each to their own really . There is a right & a wrong way of doing it, you is all doing it wrong.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 each to their own really . There is a right & a wrong way of doing it, you is all doing it wrong.......... Bollocks Rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
completelocks Posted December 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I think seeing as there is no instructions on the tin, whichever method you use, if it gets the desired result, then it's the right way. I personally need a large black coffee in the morning before tackling any glueing at all. This may not be right, but it works for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Scenario Lee...........You get a pair of leather soles in.....Strip,scour, and apply adhesive.....Oh no! someone comes in for an engraving job urgent...You miss the contact time.......It's dried.........Whatever will you do? Answer the goddamn question..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I'm with Rick aswell. 5050 and 6092, with a bit of heat on the materials. Heat not needed on the shoe aswell IMO, although if the shops really cold, sometimes I'll do it anyway, just for peace of mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I haven't used 5050 or 6092 since the early '90s.Old fashioned adhesives. get with the times fellas. If something sticks like s*** to a blanket in the 90's, it'll still stick like s*** to a blanket on the same materials 20 years later...why fix summat that aint broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Scenario Lee...........You get a pair of leather soles in.....Strip,scour, and apply adhesive.....Oh no! someone comes in for an engraving job urgent...You miss the contact time.......It's dried.........Whatever will you do? Answer the goddamn question..... Tell the people with the engraving job it will be 30 seconds longer as I have to put these leather soles together before the glue loses its perfect bonding moment. Heels don't come with fitting instructions either, but I know how to fit them. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stutheshoe Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 chortle chortle chortle bunch of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gray Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I feel a poll looming.............Heat activate or not heat activate.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I have emailed Bostik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenB Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I haven't used 5050 or 6092 since the early '90s.Old fashioned adhesives. get with the times fellas. If something sticks like s*** to a blanket in the 90's, it'll still stick like s*** to a blanket on the same materials 20 years later... Using that logic we'd all still be driving around in Model T Fords because 'it was good enough back then...', no cancel that, we'd all be riding horses to work. why fix summat that aint broken? Because it means I only need 1 glue pot on my counter & a tiny pot of primer on the shelf. Also there are a variety of materials that I stick now that weren't around, (or perhaps just weren't commonplace) back in the '90s. All these are stuck using the same single type of adhesive. Oh, and it smells much nicer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I have 3 glue pots & 3 primers & I KNOW I KNOW what I'm doing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I haven't used 5050 or 6092 since the early '90s.Old fashioned adhesives. get with the times fellas. If something sticks like s*** to a blanket in the 90's, it'll still stick like s*** to a blanket on the same materials 20 years later... Using that logic we'd all still be driving around in Model T Fords because 'it was good enough back then...', no cancel that, we'd all be riding horses to work. why fix summat that aint broken? That's a ridiculous analogy Also, how much time do you waste priming materials, when there are specific glues that require no primer, just for the sake of saving a few square centimetres of counter space! The plot thickens....lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x minit uk Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I haven't used 5050 or 6092 since the early '90s.Old fashioned adhesives. get with the times fellas. If something sticks like s*** to a blanket in the 90's, it'll still stick like s*** to a blanket on the same materials 20 years later... Using that logic we'd all still be driving around in Model T Fords because 'it was good enough back then...', no cancel that, we'd all be riding horses to work. why fix summat that aint broken? Because it means I only need 1 glue pot on my counter & a tiny pot of primer on the shelf. Also there are a variety of materials that I stick now that weren't around, (or perhaps just weren't commonplace) back in the '90s. All these are stuck using the same single type of adhesive. Oh, and it smells much nicer Ah, thats why it takes you 5 days to do a pair of leather soles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
completelocks Posted December 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I have emailed Bostik. Now this I am interested in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x minit uk Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I have emailed Bostik. Now this I am interested in it will only get stuck in the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 it will be ok if their computer gets hot though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 6092 and 50-50 with various primas... works, never have a problem.. I also use my heat lamp when I feel it's required... most of you would love my repairs on your shelf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 the method should always be the same with 6092, if its dry enough to need heating you've gone past the best point when the evaporation of its properties is at its strongest. brush on, leave only a few minutes to go tacky (it is after all a contact adhesive, not a heat activated one) place work together.. there should be NO other method with 6092! Lee What a crock of shit.. when your multi tasking in a busy shop you can't always time it to stick contact adhesives at the tackiest time, thats why we have heat cabinettes that are made to re=activate any glue, it works and there is nothing wrong with the practice. Infact some moulded soles are better warmed as they are more supple to follow moulded contours. shut it Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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