Stanley Mishap Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Never mind the `Pinning waists` debate who takes out an old stilly pin by - A ,at chest height ,pinchers in fist , knuckles facing you / twisting the shoe (like myself) or - B, at waist height -pinchers in fist ,knuckles facing floor / twisting the pinchers. personally i have seen repairers using both techniques and option A gives more power (in my opinion) - but what do you think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenB Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Shoe twisting mainly, though some stubborn ones are better treated by levering the pin with pincers to edge it out a little at a time. completelocks and Stormwelt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 grip, twist shoe, go red in the face. put between knees, go reder. kneel on shoe & get the dog to try. works 90% of the time. kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Grind,punch and drill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Shoe twisting mainly, though some stubborn ones are better treated by levering the pin with pincers to edge it out a little at a time. same way for me, Stormwelt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stutheshoe Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Never mind the `Pinning waists` debate who takes out an old stilly pin by - A ,at chest height ,pinchers in fist , knuckles facing you / twisting the shoe (like myself) or - B, at waist height -pinchers in fist ,knuckles facing floor / twisting the pinchers. personally i have seen repairers using both techniques and option A gives more power (in my opinion) - but what do you think ? both ways if its super hard clamp in vice and twist and pull and punch yerself in face fun fun fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevE1965 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 try gripping the pin with a pair of Stanley diagonal cutting pliers,[ just enough pressure or it will snap the pin!] tap the end of the pliers with your hammer and nine out of ten pins will come out. Be careful not to catch the heel of the shoe when bringing the hammer down, dont usually need to strike as such just gentle tapping will do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Usually 'A' but if it's a real b'stard, grip the metal pin high in the bench vice jaws and drive the shoe off the pin with a pin punch carefully placed against the tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
completelocks Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 still being pretty new to this, i was finding it hard to actually get a good grip on the pin. So i got a pair of pincers on the grinder, ground them almost flat so they stand up on end (if you get me) and are now pretty sharp. A bit of squeezing and twisting and the sharp edges slide under whats left of the pin and ease it up enough to get the blunt ones in there. Then its the pulling, twisting and going red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfman Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 i go 1 stage further graham after grinding the face of nips flat like yourself i then grind the cutting edge flet thus allowing a better grip and no danger of cutting theough the pin as you squeeze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Fix Elgin Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 try gripping the pin with a pair of Stanley diagonal cutting pliers,[ just enough pressure or it will snap the pin!] tap the end of the pliers with your hammer and nine out of ten pins will come out. Be careful not to catch the heel of the shoe when bringing the hammer down, dont usually need to strike as such just gentle tapping will do it. Yes Yes Yes Like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 thats a new one on me that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshoeman9 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 & me ! What's supporting the shoe when you tap the Pliers ? Stormwelt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Mishap Posted May 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 On the tough ones Grip and `ROCK` the pin forward - Re grip And `ROCK` backwards `till you get enough purchase to shoe twist it out ! Everyone i know using the waist high method - fail 9 times out of 10 - or snap it off ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Fix Elgin Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 On the tough ones Grip and `ROCK` the pin forward - Re grip And `ROCK` backwards `till you get enough purchase to shoe twist it out ! Everyone i know using the waist high method - fail 9 times out of 10 - or snap it off ! NO No No & me ! What's supporting the shoe when you tap the Pliers ? Let the shoe fall onto the bench(clean bench) Go on try it...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Fix Elgin Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 try gripping the pin with a pair of Stanley diagonal cutting pliers,[ just enough pressure or it will snap the pin!] tap the end of the pliers with your hammer and nine out of ten pins will come out. Be careful not to catch the heel of the shoe when bringing the hammer down, dont usually need to strike as such just gentle tapping will do it. Yes Yes Yes Like this [attachment=0]heel0001.jpg[/attachment] Can not SHOUT ABOUT IT LOUD ENOUGH....GO ON TRY IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenB Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Maybe we should all be using one of THESE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Fix Elgin Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Maybe we should all be using one of THESE :lol: Very handy tool Worked with these when I was working in America so yes good tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenB Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Very handy tool Worked with these when I was working in America so yes good tool But what can it do that you can't achieve with a pair of nippers, a decent scouring band, or at a push, a flat bladed screwdriver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevE1965 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I picked this trick up when working in Bermuda, guess it is an American thing, only useful tip I ever got from a Yank! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Fix Elgin Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I picked this trick up when working in Bermuda, guess it is an American thing, only useful tip I ever got from a Yank! You worked in Bermuda...was it with Darren at Heel Quik? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Fix Elgin Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Very handy tool Worked with these when I was working in America so yes good tool But what can it do that you can't achieve with a pair of nippers, a decent scouring band, or at a push, a flat bladed screwdriver. Yes your right but this tool is much better than a flat head screwdriver, it is a handy piece of kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 this one comes from Robin Healy Do you remember these machines? Its a puller for removing heel tips. we havent got the cup that supports the shoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autolock Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 I have one of these it actually has 3 different attachments to accommodate different heel thicknesses ,used to use it a lot years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Mishap Posted May 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 What i originally was getting at was - chest height /twist shoe ....or waist height / twist pinchers....no one has come forward with the waist height option yet - although I`ve seen it done many times (i`ve been told Timpsons prefer to teach newbies this way ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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