Stanley Mishap Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 These Locks Were Fitted After A Local Glazing Company - Won the Tender With Our Area Council (About A Year Ago) Over 500 Houses/Flats In Our Area Have These Locks - So Far Birch,Davenports,Colledge,& NW Keys Have No Idea How To Get Them Spoken To Boss Of Glazing Co - He Won`t Tell Me Where He Got Them (Not A Nice Fella !) - I`ve Got A Rumour They Are From Brazil All We Can Do Is Refer Customers Back To The Council (Some Have Told Me They Have Had Different - Standard- Locks Refitted) ...With Standard I Mean 6 Pin Euro Locks Or Similar. Local Locksmiths Are Also Refitting Privately As Well We Used To Have These Come in Daily - Slowed Down a Bit Now Still A Few A Week Local Timpsons Have Tried To Use A` Milling` Machine To Make These - But Have Reported Back They Are So Complex And That Mostly The Key Won`t Even Enter The Lock....Also They Are Reportedly Charging Quite An Inflated Price (As These Are Mainly For Pensioner Flats)And Relatives /Carers Need Duplicates Any Input Would Be Appreciated ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gardner Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 send a key to lee or myself and we will make you blanks and send key back and keep profile in stock so can supply you blanks whenever u need them or buy a easy entrie key machine. craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Morland Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Could well be a patented section. Personally, I wouldn't risk making blanks and therefore breaking the law until I knew otherwise. Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gardner Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Could well be a patented section. Personally, I wouldn't risk making blanks and therefore breaking the law until I knew otherwise. Phil. it dont matter if it is patended you wont be breaking the law the machine will change the profile enough tio be differant but still work craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Morland Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Could well be a patented section. Personally, I wouldn't risk making blanks and therefore breaking the law until I knew otherwise. Phil. it dont matter if it is patended you wont be breaking the law the machine will change the profile enough tio be differant but still work craig Hmmm. That brings up the thorney subject of black market keys. Don't do it IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Whats the blue blob on the head? Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Straight of the Union Web Site “Cylinder systems that rely on copyright protection can no longer be legally protected from others manufacturing and selling ‘pirate’ key blanks. Only cylinder systems that offer Patent protection for their keys can truly legally protect against illegal key blank duplication.†Fait enough for me, still means my easyentries gona pay dividends on legal "pirate" keys, Patent protected I'll leave. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Morland Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Whats the blue blob on the head? Lee The key illustrated is part of a master key system. The blue blob is a coloured insert to aid identification of which lock/locks it opens. Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaloti Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Straight of the Union Web Site“Cylinder systems that rely on copyright protection can no longer be legally protected from others manufacturing and selling ‘pirate’ key blanks. Only cylinder systems that offer Patent protection for their keys can truly legally protect against illegal key blank duplication.†Fait enough for me, still means my easyentries gona pay dividends on legal "pirate" keys, Patent protected I'll leave. Lee Ethics ? Why arnt people going back to the glazing company ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 The milling machine that timpson would be using would be an easie entrie, they probably cut them without cleaning the new blank first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 unless it states on the key "patent protected" you can copy. restricted keys are just that! I WOULD NOT COPY A PATENTED KEY ON MY EASIE ENTRIE MACHINE! carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Ethics Jo (respect)........Have you got an easie entrie too?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 i do but dont use it like Craig or Lee carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Anyone ever seen the (F)lying Scotsman? Rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 NOT worth the hassle for 25 quid! carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 I need 20 blanks milled to this section. They don't seem to be patent protected.Will send key. Who can offer the best price?? You have competition now Craig If you can let me know by tommorrow so I can bung it in the post. Cheers Chums Gray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 he has no competition from me, I don't know how he does it for the price Gray, but I wouldn't go offending him as he might charge more for them........ Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Morland Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 [attachment=0]DSCF1176.JPG[/attachment][attachment=1]DSCF1175.JPG[/attachment] I need 20 blanks milled to this section. They don't seem to be patent protected.Will send key. Who can offer the best price?? You have competition now Craig If you can let me know by tommorrow so I can bung it in the post. Cheers Chums Gray Looks like a KABA GeGe Pextra. If so, Illegally milled keys will only turn in one direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 I would never offend Craig.......I'll send it to him then. You are beginning to dissappoint me.. no Rolex pin.... no key blanks. I don't know... ..only joking.........or am I..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 [attachment=0]DSCF1176.JPG[/attachment][attachment=1]DSCF1175.JPG[/attachment] I need 20 blanks milled to this section. They don't seem to be patent protected.Will send key. Who can offer the best price?? You have competition now Craig If you can let me know by tommorrow so I can bung it in the post. Cheers Chums Gray Looks like a KABA GeGe Pextra. If so, Illegally milled keys will only turn in one direction. Triffic......Piss on my bonfire why don't you..I've just taken a £50 deposit on the strength of my easie entrie buddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Morland Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 [attachment=0]DSCF1176.JPG[/attachment][attachment=1]DSCF1175.JPG[/attachment] I need 20 blanks milled to this section. They don't seem to be patent protected.Will send key. Who can offer the best price?? You have competition now Craig If you can let me know by tommorrow so I can bung it in the post. Cheers Chums Gray Looks like a KABA GeGe Pextra. If so, Illegally milled keys will only turn in one direction. Triffic......#### on my bonfire why don't you..I've just taken a £50 deposit on the strength of my easie entrie buddies. Tried to post as soon as I could... Of course it may not be, I'll be interested to see if they work. Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 I await Craigs reply. He won't let me down. We is Celts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 unless you are posting this or any key for that matter on special delivery insured you are mad. so theres 12 quid return postage before you get a key cut? not worth the hassle/worry carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC77 Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 I do not think they are PExtra. Might be my eyes but I can not see the indent for the side pin or the stop key indent on the collar. I think it is the previous incarnation of the GeGe possibly AP2000. DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC77 Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 A quick search on the web and idc is international door controls. http://www.int-door-controls.co.uk/ Ask them if the system is still patented and or if you buy blanks. DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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