lock&quay Posted August 23, 2024 Report Share Posted August 23, 2024 I never thought I'd be saying this but IMHO the Miracle S10 is the superior machine it decodes & cuts all the Avocet ABS & Ultion keys . The manufacturer will add a key if you send them the details or card number really quickly if required .The only keys the Futura does better are the LF 30R & similar small keys . I'll see what I think in a years time . lockdecoders and Dave the locksmith 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted August 23, 2024 Report Share Posted August 23, 2024 silca quality has nose dived in recent years , not just there machines , the smart ariel plus ive read of 2 today that the port broke on first job on both , i now prefer keyline car keys to silca car keys . they seem to want to charge over the top for their silca name but sell products that are not always worthy of that name. its fine wanting to be the most expensive , but if the case they should have superb quality control and superior products to justify this , this used to be the case. their top end machines are still the best on the market though. they should have stuck with top end , its like their silca remote keys , no different to the china keys you can get anywhere . lock&quay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted August 23, 2024 Report Share Posted August 23, 2024 Silca are pricing themselves out of the market on many products, a bit like Yorkshire Teabags and Heinz products lock&quay and hakeemz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k4mrc Posted October 3, 2024 Report Share Posted October 3, 2024 On 8/23/2024 at 2:16 PM, lock&quay said: I never thought I'd be saying this but IMHO the Miracle S10 is the superior machine it decodes & cuts all the Avocet ABS & Ultion keys . The manufacturer will add a key if you send them the details or card number really quickly if required .The only keys the Futura does better are the LF 30R & similar small keys . I'll see what I think in a years time . where did you buy it? price? thanks lockdecoders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted October 3, 2024 Report Share Posted October 3, 2024 From Peter Southern probably https://www.lockdecoders.com/detail.asp?id=817 Dave the locksmith and lockdecoders 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockdecoders Posted October 3, 2024 Report Share Posted October 3, 2024 Tks. Yes you can buy direct from us as Lock&Quay did. Sales@lockdecoders.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lock&quay Posted October 10, 2024 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2024 I've just tested the accuracy on both the machines on various keys . The Miracle MS10 on average was within .01mm & the Silca was .05mm both machines were calibrated . Like I said before the only keys the Miracle fails on are the small L&F keys unfortunately all it needs is a better clamp . lockdecoders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockdecoders Posted October 10, 2024 Report Share Posted October 10, 2024 Thanks very much. I totally agree with you on the issue of the small L&F locker keys lock&quay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkeys Posted October 25, 2024 Report Share Posted October 25, 2024 On 10/10/2024 at 11:36 AM, lockdecoders said: Thanks very much. I totally agree with you on the issue of the small L&F locker keys Hi Peter do you have a solution for the Platinum yale keys (The PD, PE, PF) and the Superior 1 star? (SA, SB, SC) ? Carl lock&quay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lock&quay Posted January 10 Author Report Share Posted January 10 On 10/25/2024 at 4:26 PM, mrkeys said: Hi Peter do you have a solution for the Platinum yale keys (The PD, PE, PF) and the Superior 1 star? (SA, SB, SC) ? Carl I use a RST TM303 & HD Punto for these it's just quicker . I was doing a load of Ankerslot keys yesterday & the S10 is a lot faster , It also decodes the ABS keys the Silca does not . lockdecoders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 47 minutes ago, lock&quay said: I use a RST TM303 & HD Punto for these it's just quicker . I was doing a load of Ankerslot keys yesterday & the S10 is a lot faster , It also decodes the ABS keys the Silca does not . Yes it does if you use the Federal APE key cutting card which is available on the SKP and my Triax so i assume the Futura pro has the same card available. lock&quay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lock&quay Posted Thursday at 05:23 PM Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:23 PM On 1/10/2025 at 12:03 PM, grahamparker said: Yes it does if you use the Federal APE key cutting card which is available on the SKP and my Triax so i assume the Futura pro has the same card available. perhaps someone should tell the Silca rep as he told me it couldn't when setting up the Futura. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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