hibsjo(SCO) Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 was told to get one of these done(legally needs to be done every 5 years) so i got my local electrician out £90 and it was done(its a twat of a job, has to check all plugs and everything needs to be turned off) insurance renewal come through the door yesterday, guess what? they need to see my certificate of electrical compliance ie hard wire test and pats test!!!!!!! get them done or you aint insured. they also wanted BS 5 lever locks on MY door lol carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Friend Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Oh I remember those days - Insurance assessor telling me I had to have a BS 5 lever lock on my Ali shop door - I drove the van from the yard to the front opened it and said 'There are all the tools you need - now show me how to fit a 5 lever lock to an Ali shop door......' But every year they think of a way to screw you - Electrical and PAT testing is the latest. Soon it will be fire extinguisher testing then alarm contracts then a cash safe when more than £50 is in the till Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k4mrc Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Seems to me that if they can not pay a claim (any excuse) they wont! we tried to do this test after a company insisted we do one, and the electrical company came to do the testy and insisted we 'take out' all our counters and all the machinery so they could get to it alll in a health and safety way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Had my pats testing done last 2 years.Was told by sparky needed doing every year. Looks like I'll be have a little word in his shell-like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slippy Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Had people ring me about PAT testing. So I asked them, What do they class as a portable device. Key machines & a shoe repairing machine don't go anywhere. I have 2 cordless drill and a cordless angle grinder for on site and do not require PAT testing. Key machines are only used by me as is the power unit which is stripped down every christmas. The only, truely portable device is my hoover. By this time they've usually put the phone down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Friend Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Beware Anyrhing with a plug is 'portable' and no matter if you move it or not it is still testable as are the charges for your drill and other portable equipment That they are only used by you is also no excuse - you are connected to the public network and therefore liable How do I know? I have a testerrs certificate Hard wire test is from the fuseboard around all your circuits and back - I have a colleague who is over-run with this sort of work in factories and offices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenB Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 So I asked them, What do they class as a portable device. I'm no expert, but was led to believe that if it has a plug that goes into a socket on the wall it is classed as portable & requires testing, whereas if it is wired direct it doesn't. Anybody know better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenB Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Thanks Mick \:D/ \:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slippy Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 remove the plug & change it to a fused switch. I suppose then it's classed as hard wired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k4mrc Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 with regards to the PASTS test, you can do your own. I bought my own and all you will have to do is - Watch the training DVD! then you are qualified... another con! but - mains testing is a little more than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Friend Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 well you could buy the tester and do it yourself but in the event of an accident your would also be liable - Thats why I did a two day course but the testers are a few bob and you could pay someone to do it and save a few quid- only very heavy stuff needs doing every years like washing machines the rest can be 2 or 3 years depending on age. And yes if you have fused spurs that would negate the need for a test - but you need an electrician to put in the fused spur and issue you a certificate of compliance along with your mains being tested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slippy Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Putting it politely. I've just spenty £500 on my course. Now can I change my light bulb. Yes Are you trained in the use of a ladder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Friend Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 yes - as long as I can secure the work area rope off a safety zone - have someone at the foor of the ladder in hi viz and hard hat and I have the CSCS certificate I have a certificate of competence in angle grinders - don't have the chain saw one anymore I have insurance for all the types of work I do and I can change your light bulb except that's now illegal you must be using low power lamps. Next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenB Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Next? Have you done a risk assessment on that table of yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 are the legs padded & underside padded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Are you trained in the use of a ladder? How can you ask an ex fireman if he was trained in the use of a ladder?? I was trained............still fell off one and bust my leg .... . ....Wasn't my fault though...Mr Carlsbergs fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slippy Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 OK. Better not break wind eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 [. ....Wasn't my fault though...Mr Carlsbergs fault If Carlsberg built ladders they'd probably be the best ladders in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 I'd still manage to fall off it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Friend Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Falling off - no worries falling through mmmmmm I just smashed a stepladder by standing on it - bloody hurt as I hit the ground backache for about six weeks - got an all metal one now Table is safe fallout shelter - safe against raging wives, tax collectors and customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 An all metal back??... Jesus. ..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Friend Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Stainless no less and its a bugger with the Andrex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Had my pats testing done last 2 years.Was told by sparky needed doing every year.Looks like I'll be have a little word in his shell-like Michael, dont confuse PAT testing with hard wire testing which is checking the mains not equipment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Are these tests actual "legal requirements" or just jobs for the boys. Because a couple of years back I sent a couple of chaps away with tails between legs who were trying to do Pats tests and heard nothing since. Renewed my shop insurance 2 months ago ....no mention of PATS...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k4mrc Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Renewed my shop insurance 2 months ago ....no mention of PATS...... look in "small print" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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