Web_Engraver Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Has anyone had dealings with http://www.keysnstraps.co.uk Prices look good but are the keys any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Davis Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 No address and no vat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Very little detail about themselves or where they are, that always makes me suspicious No real detail about the blanks, seems very limited and NO VAT ? Very odd indeed Could they be a far eastern Comapany looking to make in-roads into the UK? Who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Davis Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 is there an echo in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 keysnstrapspaul rumford 143 parkside ave barnehurst bexleheath kent DA7 6NP Ah, not Chinese then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny King Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Needs to be VAT Regs tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 not if he's taking less than 68k he don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny King Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 wholesaler taking less than 68k Thats only £1300 a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkybob Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 prices are good but only pop blanks. do you remember when we had hardware shops where you could get nut bolts etc of any size and any qty. along comes the big boys such as B&Q and now try and get a 3/8 widget. imposible becouse someone "cherry Picked " the most profitable lines and killed the specialist. Ill stick to the specialist key suppliers and then when I need some obscure profile or advice they will still be there for me. Just my opinion of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 not if he's taking less than 68k he don't As off April 2010, the current VAT threashold is 70k you can de-register at 68k Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satiusreesadimus Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEYSNSTRAPS Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 hi all,thanks lee for detailing my address pretty sure that is illegal but anyway i am not bothered its no secret really. sorry for the spam too . i am impressed with your level of dedication to the industry. anyway i'l clear up all your questions. no there is no vat to pay a its a new company that in its 1st financial year will take less than £70k its no longer 68k. the keys are good quality. they are produced in china by the largest key blank supplier. we currently only have 4 sections. i have 30 more and order but on hold to see the reaction. its been very good. we have only been trading for 1 week elling them wholesale but the keys landed 6 weeks ago. i have been uing them since then to see if they are and good. they cut nice and i have had nothing back. i have been cutting keys for years and i am happy with them. im pretty sure i can sort out somekind of discount code for member of this site if they want to try them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 hi all,thanks lee for detailing my address pretty sure that is illegal but anyway i am not bothered its no secret really. Sorry, no secret, not illegal. all domain names can be traced and a quick search on yours provides all the details Lee has listed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcap Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 thanks lee for detailing my address pretty sure that is illegal..... Actually; No, it's not. It's your website that's illegal. Companies Act 2006 and Business Names Act 1985 Every UK company should list on its website: * its name; * its company registration number; * its place of registration; and * its registered office address. Sole traders and partnerships who carry on a business in the UK under a business name (not the names of the trader/partners) must also make certain website disclosures: * in the case of a sole trader, the individual’s name; * in the case of a partnership, the name of each member of the partnership; * in either case, in relation to each person named, an address in the UK at which service of any document relating in any way to the business will be effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Friend Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Come on guys lets cut some slack - just lately you sound like the MLA every new person is attacked - He is only a bit upset that info was up, someone could have asked him...... but as its been said to send him a cheque you would need his address. Yes he has a few things wrong, but he is a guy looking for an edge to get him through, all credit to his trying to earn a crust, better than taking social money. Can we just modify our remarks to being helpful again rather than confrontational, lets just welcome him and explain where he is wrong, rather than these 'he could die' cowboy builder statements. Many of us are not that familiar with the acts, it is a minefield and one where I have stepped on a few, even recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carkeysandremotes Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Come on guys lets cut some slack - just lately you sound like the MLA every new person is attacked . well said mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEYSNSTRAPS Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 ok not illegal but definately unfair to post a mans family address on a forum. but lets not dwell. thankyou for all your feedback, posotive or negative it will help me to improve my business. im not here to con anyone, im not here to upset anyone. and i definately will never even dent the big players so please dont worry about your hard to get sections. im here as we all are to make money. and we all know that if we do a bad job we may take money today but not tommorrow! i dont do a bad job, either in my retail aspect and i hope not in our wholesale! i respect your opinions and feedback. so thank you once again for them. i will look into the legal stuff again. when you set up a site it goes through it with you. didnt see anything about that. dont want to be illegal! finally i know the vat is bothering people. as we said before the threshold is 70k, with less than 6 months trade we do not anticipate it will exceed this. paul rumford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny King Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Come on guys lets cut some slack - just lately you sound like the MLA every new person is attacked - He is only a bit upset that info was up, someone could have asked him...... but as its been said to send him a cheque you would need his address.Yes he has a few things wrong, but he is a guy looking for an edge to get him through, all credit to his trying to earn a crust, better than taking social money. Can we just modify our remarks to being helpful again rather than confrontational, lets just welcome him and explain where he is wrong, rather than these 'he could die' cowboy builder statements. Many of us are not that familiar with the acts, it is a minefield and one where I have stepped on a few, even recently. =D> =D> =D> =D> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 hi all,thanks lee for detailing my address pretty sure that is illegal. I have removed this reply, as its never my intention to upset ANY member. HOWEVER, IN THE INTERESTS OF THE TOPIC & YOUR OWN MISINFORMATION. Under the data protection act, it is illegal for a data controller to share information held about a third party if they haven't specifically requested it to be. when you signed up for your domain you agreed for nominet the uk database holders of co.uk domains to display your "whois" data, thus allowing it to be openly viewed. copy & pasting open source information is NOT illegal. You might want to consider Redcaps accurate advice & read up on the "distance selling laws" before trading standards knocks at your door. Mike I don't see why some "slack" might be needed, this chap is clearly trading illegally & its worth protecting our members when we smell a rat. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 here you go Paul http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/busine ... oft698.pdf This document has some interesting info on distance selling, particularly section 3. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEYSNSTRAPS Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 lee do you know everything? i honestly did not realise that i was trading illegally. i am currently reading all about electronic commerce directive, freedom of information, data protection and will change anything that is making my site illegal. i will include my address and everything i need. im not out to con people. thankyou for removing my address lee. i shall get back to my legal stuff. if you think of anything else let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEYSNSTRAPS Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 thanks lee thats alot of help, i have removed the site for now while i make the changes you have all highlighted i need to make. i want to run this business 100% legal and was never my intention to defraud or upset anyone. the changes will be made. just got quite a bit of reading to do! naive of me i know. sincerely thank you all for your input paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 =D> sure plenty will help you if you need to know anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Friend Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 I dont agree Lee, all that was needed was a kind word in the ear, if he continued then Ok. Maybe he got it wrong - maybe he is a flybynight - but lets at least give him the benefit. But leaping off the top of the wardrobe and landing on his head is a bit rough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC77 Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 All of the above regarding distant selling applied to our ex friend carkeysandremotes. Wonderfull web site but no details of address etc, etc. DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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