k4mrc Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 has anyone bought Zed Bull yet? how are you getting on with it? any problems yet? with the cheaper chips etc, looks the way to go - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Davis Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Think it really depends what you need to do with the machine, the ad900pro with all add on's is around £2000.00. Thats a lot of keys to sell before you start making a return. Oh yes and just when your starting to make a profit there will be another add on to purchase. I like to look on the bright side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 has anyone bought Zed Bull yet? how are you getting on with it?any problems yet? with the cheaper chips etc, looks the way to go - whats Zed Bull? Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest quickeys Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 This: https://skskeys.co.uk/products/transpon ... r-machine/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thunderfix Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 just bought brand new ad90 from china £250 including delivery will see how good it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Davis Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 tut tut, You don't want to be telling people things like that , you're start a 15 page debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 for one its not a brand new ad90, its a pirated copy of an ad90 , does the job well enough, but no back up , no updates and no tech support, and indirectly ripping off advanced diagnostics. The trouble with these pirate machines is , if everyone buys these, then ad stop making a living, so stop developing new software so all grinds to a halt, pirateing is theft, so its not something to shout about, besides if ad find out you have one they will ban you from ever having their products, so not worth it long term. downside is you cannot confirm how reliable software will be long term, or the machines build quality , and you cannot sell it openly, its not ilegal to buy and own one and use it from china, but copywright theft begins as soon as you try to sell it on in the uk. One guy i spoke to a month ago with an mvp pro unit, bought a copy ad100 on ebay to save on token costs, ad traced him through ebay and erased his mvp, and wont now deal with him. cheap chinese prices may sound good, but long term just not worth it and will do more harm long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 I'll concur to concur with that Rapid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 just bought brand new ad90 from china £250 including delivery will see how good it is Hope you don't own any genuine AD products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 i too concur =D> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decker Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 thunderfix, because you have posted about buying this product i should imagine you have bought innocently without knowing of the implications of what the guys above have posted. you are not the only loser, we all are. the majority of expenditure on these machines is the software design, in this instance Advanced diagnostics and their customrs pay for this, whereas the chinese just copy and sell on. so indirectly you are robbing every owner of a genuine AD90 of cheaper future software. The following may seem an unusual request, but in the long term will benefit you and i. log off, go to your shed, van, garage and get yourself an hammer of some type and smash the copy machine to bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 log off, go to your shed, van, garage and get yourself an hammer of some type and smash the copy machine to bits. LOL LOL Drastic advice, but having read this thread and the problems that you may incur, I'd take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 just bought brand new ad90 from china £250 including delivery will see how good it is O'ya & welcome to the forum thunderfix Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Tony original Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 just bought brand new ad90 from china £250 including delivery will see how good it is We did look at these - as they are trying to sell batches of these off cheap but 1st they are now old machines and as stand alone do not do much more than the 2nd hand machines we sell (when we get them) for £50! and 2nd were not sure if these were Gen. machines or not ? - and Hence if copies - we decided not to buy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 well it looks like ive decided to go with the AD900 pro. good price. good back up. gave me all the answers to my questions on asking. 2 chips does all not 6 like zed bull. carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 im looking at both at mo, zed bull has edge for the eeprom side at mo, but ad the better machine and back up and a far superior trade in package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 its a cracking package and AD seem to know what there talking about. we dont need/do eeprom so zed bull overkill for us but AD does have facility to add eeprom module at a later date. 2 chips for all there modules is a good idea. Just need to source tpx chips? carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k4mrc Posted November 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 i am with hibs on this, i did initially think on zed-bull, but eprom is something that will take all my time up, and i dont like the idea with that. ad900 wins in this case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 i have to admit that im almost sold on the ad900 pro, as i know what i get from ad in back up and support and of course quality, just the eeprom programmer that appealed with zed bull, but an unknown quantity for me,as im unsure of their quality and their back up, and long term id imagine ad to be the safest bet. greg at ad has offered me a cracking trade in on my rw4 unit , which to be honest hickleys offer against the zed bull was poor in comparrison. guess ad will win the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Just need to source tpx chips? Dan @ http://www.3dgroupuk.com can supply TPX TP's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Tony original Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Just need to source tpx chips? carry on! Hope this link helps . Please click on the " List of Vehicles " to download all the TPX chip info you require https://skskeys.co.uk/products/transpon ... tpx1-tpx2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Tony original Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 This: https://skskeys.co.uk/products/transpon ... r-machine/ Just to advise - the Zed Bull comes direct from " Hickleys " who has given many of our customers back up also on all the AD products over the years - So I hope this info is of help . Also as mentioned - the Zed bull is the most up to date out of the 2 machines. If you want to down load the pdf on this for the comparison from the AD900 pro and Zed bull (Eprom info) please follow the link Quickeys kindly added . Click on - Machine Brochure - and this will show you the comparison of ALL machines present now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 I feel this comparison chart is unfair and biased towards ZB and dont believe the ZB is as up to date on the cloning side as the AD900(may be on the eeprom) carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Tony original Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Thanks for all the info on this . What I can tell you is that we have sold a couple of Zed Bull's now and just getting good reports from it ! I think we can also supply the AD 900 Pro as well - as Advanced Sent us some info on that just the other day . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 keyman im sold on the ad900 pro, but still want to follow the eeprom route, can you reccomend a good programmer and software for this as im sure the modules for eeprom on the ad900 are database guide only ? as this was the only reason that zed bull was in the running for me, is there a programmer and software package available elsewhere and do you know where and the costs ? the ad trade in package was far more impressive, and breaking down the comparrisons zed bull offer no additional programming than ad, as bmw split into 3 on zed bull but packaged into 1 with ad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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