kobblers Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 I hope you chappies are not getting Chrome mixed up with Dri-Ped here! It has been covered before in detail. just hope elfman dont secure them with a substance I'm not too fond of. Interesting to here his method though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 This chappie ain't mixed up I'm looking forward to reading how it's done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalaidascope Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 When I started repairing shoes back in 1965 Dri-ped oak and Dri-ped green were the class act in leather soles. To attach the soles they were rivited over the waist and rivited through a piece of lifting in the center of the sole,they were left full and not cut round and sent to the factory shop for stitching, where they were rounded and grooved prior to stitching.These soles were sold with a six month guarantee,they finished exceptionally well and the bottoms were cleaned by holding them over a gas flame to sweat them and the dirt was wiped off with a clean rag. Standard leather sole and heel cost around 18/6 with Dri-ped around £1-3s-6d. Great to work with and great for the customer. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 just to let you know gents that i have manage to glue dri ped successfully in the past ,it is a lengthy process but it can be done and have also trained one or two of the staff in the company how to do it as for doc martins the comany i onced worked for used to turn them away as unrepairable becouse they could not get them to stick even with the heat knife even to the point where they were asking there suppliers for help on the matter ,it was only when a pair was esnt in for an adaption like a raise and socket and i said no probs they all said no way to which i replied piece of cake,then proved it I'm dying to know how you cemented dri-ped, as I don't beleave it can be done without extracting the oil's it's impregnated with, thus making using dri-ped pointless. Please tell me more elfman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 When I started repairing shoes back in 1965 Dri-ped oak and Dri-ped green were the class act in leather soles. To attach the soles they were rivited over the waist and rivited through a piece of lifting in the center of the sole,they were left full and not cut round and sent to the factory shop for stitching, where they were rounded and grooved prior to stitching.These soles were sold with a six month guarantee,they finished exceptionally well and the bottoms were cleaned by holding them over a gas flame to sweat them and the dirt was wiped off with a clean rag. Standard leather sole and heel cost around 18/6 with Dri-ped around £1-3s-6d. Great to work with and great for the customer. Ken I like the cleaning method, Ken. I never knew that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 new un on me that is that ken from what used to be smith's cleaners on cross street by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 That is a similiar way to the method used in the 50s Ken but we did not use a flame but hot water before attaching for stitching. We stitched them in th factory where they were repaired. Anyone who says that these soles can be stuck on is unaware of what Dri-Ped & Chrome (this is the green part of the Dri-Ped and on Chrome it is all green and full of grease or Oldham Chip Fat, I think they were manufactured in bolton but I may be wrong. Nice of you to post Ken and welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfman Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 it is still possable to buy some bespoke shoes with driped soles but they are very rare to get in for repair and when you do then the only driped that is available is the spatten brand which is a blueish green in colour. as for attatchment of any leather soles there is four methods i e adhesive,wood pegs ,steel rivits or stitched the difference being that pegged and rivited are stiff and the oters flexable ,the princable of the stitch being that the locking knot of the stitch acts as the same way as the rivit head . as for the leather it self there is the open and closed fibres each has it own purpose and use, the tanning is done to help it last longer much like a preservative the most common being ,oakbark, vegatable, chrome,it use to take 6 months from when the hide was taken from the animal and the tanning process before the leather was suitable to use as a soling bend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 The way the soles are held on by the stitching method is by the use of a setting wax that holds the thread ridgid in the holes made by the Aw/Needle. This type of sole would not remain on the shoe for its wearout time as the stiches would pull through. that is why repaires now use adhesives to counteract this problem as we do not now use heated wax like the manufacturers. (or at least most dont). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x minit uk Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Right chaps, when I was a trainee many moons ago I remember using a latex based cement, now for the life of me I can not think what we used it on but I have an idea it might have been dri-ped or chrome. Did anyone else use this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalaidascope Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Hi Ascap, yes its me,finish in may after twenty years[very expensive rent] going into partnership with a good mate,and who is Ascap? And how are you doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalaidascope Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Was it Walkers of Bolton where they were tanned? And does anyone remember velodtstain bottom finish[i think that is how it was spelt] and can you still get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Walkers of Bolton was the main tannery. I still have a pair somewhere from 40 years ago but I cant find them, the logo was on the sole. Velostain is not now on the list of safe stains to use, it went years ago, amongst the 1st casualties of Cancer producing agents. Balls do a similiar colourant, or did when I was using it. There are a few variants. Latex was only used for normal leather. Rubber solution, the type used for inner tube repairs was used on rubber and sticking crepe to non crepe products (still a good glues used correctly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x minit uk Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Thanks for the info Hugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalaidascope Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Cheers Hugh,pity that it used to produce a great finish. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 i did a bit of work for you when i was 18 ken, almost twenty years ago and whilst i was still very naive! (i've learned a lot since then ) it was whilst you were in hospital. the manageress of the dry cleaners back then was edi, she's one of my customers now and she's still going strong it's good to know you're still out there i never get chance to call into manchester else you would've seen more of me over the years, i'm married with 5 kids now so time for me is at a premium most days are you still staying in shoe repairing in your new venture or is it something else? do i know your mate if he's a cobbler? regards, rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalaidascope Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Hi Rick, I had an idea it might be you,great to hear you are doing well,five kids, good to see you`ve taken up a hobby as well. Say hello to Edi for me it`s a number of years since I saw her,she had put a bit of weight on, and say hello to her husband Ronnie if he is still with us. I`m staying in shoe repairs but working in cheshire with a mate who lives over there so I doubt you will know him. All the best mate, if I`m in oldham I`ll call in and say hello Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 http://www.friendsreunited.co.uk/friend ... ndomiser=4 it all happens around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x minit uk Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 http://www.friendsreunited.co.uk/friendsreunited.asp?WCI=FRMain&show=Y&page=UK&randomiser=4 it all happens around here Like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 ronnie's still going ken and edi is still an old battleaxe hope everything goes well with your new venture kind regards, rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Fix Elgin Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Nightmare....... Got a pair of mens ECCO city shoes in for soles and heels, started to grind them down then saw there was a venneer of Dri Ped Green (I have called this stuff green oak for a long time). Knowing this stuff from the past I thought grind the veneer off untill i got to the plastic underneath, did that and found that none of my glue's would take hold of the plastic nightmare, waiting for the customer to come back to tell him the story.......hope he take's it well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 you got any pictures of them? Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 What adhesives are you trying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Fix Elgin Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Did'nt think to take a picture sorry...Customer was in at lunch time, took the news well no blame placed anywhere The glue i am useing for my plastic's are gripsotite PTA plus or bostic 50/50 and rehagol renia primer if needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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