CDTL Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Hi everyone have problems with the car key just turning round and round but not opening the doors , been cutting them from the tip the customers key is worn so should I be trying to set it up some where else and if so any tips would be appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APLLocksmiths Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 If the lock is spinning it is the clutch that's activating. Chances are the tip of the old key will be worn and the bottom of the lock will clogged up with muck. Give the lock a really good flushing with lube and give it a good clean out. Simes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 That's close but not quite right. From what you have described you have cut the key with the wrong spacing because you lined the new key up with the worn tip of the old key, this throws the spacing out by the amount the tip is worn away. How I sort these is by measuring the edges of the cut closest to the tip and comparing those to the measurements in Instacode, then spacing the blank back by how much is missing. What you could do is hold the worn key in front of a blank lining the slopes of the tips up, then see how much is missing, let's say 1.5mm, then clamp the keys as you did before but move the original key back by that amount. Doesn't need to be exactly right but as close as you can. A better option than guessing is to have some depth keys made you only need to use 2 blanks to cover all depths including the side cuts. As i cut them on the unocode i know the spacing and depths are spot on. If you want me to make you up a set pm me and i'll pop them in the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simes Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I do a lot of these and my experience is that there are a number of reasons that you may have this problem. One is the need for lubrication. Often a good flush out with GT85 will do the trick. Sometimes it is wear on the key that you have cut from. Also, often the key is just not being pushed right home in the door. Futura is generally ok with these. However, the aftermarket cases for the old style remote's are a real pain. Probably because of bad manufacturing particularly I think the shaping of the end of the blank which is required for lining up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 When we cut these on the unocode they fit the doors perfectly (never yet had one that did not work), they can sometimes not work in the ignition because of a build up of dirt in the bottom of the lock, i use a broken key extractor then a can of compressed air to remove the dirt they then always fit perfect. Always seem to be worse on decorators and plaster vans because of the crap they have on there hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Hi everyone have problems with the car key just turning round and round but not opening the doors , been cutting them from the tip the customers key is worn so should I be trying to set it up some where else and if so any tips would be appreciated Message sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSR Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 I had this issue a few weeks back. I spoke to someone from the Cutting Edge magazine and he confirmed the cut would be slightly. So I re-cut the customers key and it then worked fine. I always cut them twice over now just to make sure. Not had a problem since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Perhaps he could buy a Futura, they cut a lovely SX9 key. As does my KeyLine Ninja Laser, with the added bonus of decoding of which the Futura can't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 At the ALEXpo, Ninja Laser is the new Futura... I will retire the Futura to shop bench and have Ninja in the van. I'm fed up of keep traipsing to the van to code cut Magnum, Yale Superior, cabinet and household keys, so Futura can join it's other Silca buddies in the shop. May even purchase a KeyLine Falcon to replace the Silca FO... What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 I like the falcon. So quick and easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 i like the falcon alot , but not enough to retire my FO which is still as good as new 12 years on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Don't get me wrong, I own two Silca FO's and both in excellent condition after over 15 years use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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