Simes Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I have a pair of River Island ladies Stiletto with a pin narrower than 95! Anyone else had these? I think 95 pin is the smallest we can get isn't it? Tubes are blocked too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfman Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 yes had them here and they measured 82 on the vernier as of yet i do not think they are avaible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Birch used to do a 090.. dunno if they still do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 can you not drill them out a bit? electric pliers and pull the tubes out and replace/turn upside down/wait for evolution to take place and then fit correct pin! carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfman Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 take out tubes and replace might be the best bet for the time being. drilling out sprung steel tube would not fancy that tube gets hot melts distort heel block .turn upside down why tube is same bore all the way down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 it is the same bore but the bottom of the tube doesnt have worn pins in! carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfman Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 agree hibs but that still will not help as he said pins are thinner than the 095 so even if the tubes were not blocked he still has the same problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfman Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 and believe me they are thin pins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simes Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 My problem is I don't have electric plyers and in 5 years haven't needed them so reluctant to spend the money. Although I would consider buying second hand if anyone has any?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 post them to me I'll heel them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simes Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Thanks Lee, I'm going to have another bash on them today. I'll see how I get on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Fill the hole with a wood peg and pin a top piece to the peg. Use PVC glue, too. I've done this a couple of times now with NO problems. If they do start to provide the new PU tops with a thinner pin then it's fairly easy to drill out the peg. Rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 as Rick said, but I use one of these to attach.. using a bit of Vulcatop. Fill the hole with a wood peg and pin a top piece to the peg. Use PVC glue, too. I've done this a couple of times now with NO problems. If they do start to provide the new PU tops with a thinner pin then it's fairly easy to drill out the peg. Rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 why don't you just drill out, narrow a PU top pin & attach like any other stiletto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 why don't you just drill out, narrow a PU top pin & attach like any other stiletto! Firstly I rarely use this procedure! Secondly it eliminates the chance of breaking a drill off in an 090 gauge tube, which incidently is almost impossible to drill when they are spring steel. also these tubes have no thickness to them so not much scope for reeming them out!!! thirdly, unless you drill them over a long time you are almost curtain to distort the outer plastic. fourthly, I like the way I do it because it works, is quick and looks neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 I never give my quickest work, only my best work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 I never give my quickest work, only my best work. Melt away then... My work is always as good as it gets.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simes Posted November 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Customer decided "not to bother" with them as they were pretty tatty anyway. However, I could not get the pin to drill out. Broke a drill bit which did fortunately come out. The old pins wouldn't knock down despite being the first repair. First time ever that I've not managed to fix a pair of stiletto's. Feel pretty disappointed with myself Is there a particular type of drill bit I could have used that would have been stronger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Customer decided "not to bother" with them as they were pretty tatty anyway. However, I could not get the pin to drill out. Broke a drill bit which did fortunately come out. The old pins wouldn't knock down despite being the first repair. First time ever that I've not managed to fix a pair of stiletto's. Feel pretty disappointed with myself Is there a particular type of drill bit I could have used that would have been stronger? I'm always ultra careful when removing pins... if they come in worn right off and they are this type of pin I warn customer of the problems that may occur! I've tried all sorts of drills in the past some of the expensive carbide ones are better but very expensive and they still snap off easily! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Try not to apply pressure to the drill bit and let it cut slowly, heat build up is what will cause the drill bit to snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Try not to apply pressure to the drill bit and let it cut slowly, heat build up is what will cause the drill bit to snap. I Conka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simes Posted November 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Try not to apply pressure to the drill bit and let it cut slowly, heat build up is what will cause the drill bit to snap. Thanks all for that good advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfman Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 not that i want to upset planet but that is not intirly true . yes the pressure will couse the drill to heat up but will not couse it to break it will only couse it to dull the cutting edge whats more likly to couse the drill bit to break is allowing the swarf to build up and not clear the bore thereby jamming the drill thight and breaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfman Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 if you want to drill something that already has a dore then you should actually use a 4 fluted drill and not a standerd 2 fluted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 not that i want to upset planet but that is not intirly true . yes the pressure will couse the drill to heat up but will not couse it to break it will only couse it to dull the cutting edge whats more likly to couse the drill bit to break is allowing the swarf to build up and not clear the bore thereby jamming the drill thight and breaking WHY WOULD i BE UPSET.... i DIDN'T SAY IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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