mathews Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Obviously a rare thing for an independent to have but they have always intrigued me. Does anyone have one or know of anyone with one? Do you have any experience of operating one on repairs? Do standard engineering sell them anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfman Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 are you talking about a machine to stitch the welts on to the shoe or an outsole stitcher as they are 2 differing machines i have used both and the 2 i used must have been a good few years old the outsole stitcher was built in 1939 and the welt machine not much later both beutiful machines far better than there modern day counterparts ,personally i would rather stitch the welt on by hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathews Posted July 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 I'm talking about a welt stitcher. I have a Standard outside stitcher fantastic machine. But I'm interested to see if anyone has any experience using a welt stitcher for the repair of shoes. Obviously it's good practise but must the shoes be on a last? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Welt stitchers are used in Factories and not for the faint hearted. For the amount you would do, I would stick to hand welting. kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathews Posted July 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 I understand there will hardly be any repairers that have one for the reason you have said but I still like the idea of having one sometime. Do you supply them? Is there any downside to using one on old shoes outside of a factory environment which makes new shoes or does same branded repairs all day long? For example does the machine have to be set up for each pair of shoes causing unnecessary amounts of aggro and fiddling about? Maybe I'm mistaken but look at this video, the machine looks effortless to use. It looks lighter to operate than a blake or goodyear and perhaps even easier to use than a patcher. " width="425" height="350"> " /> gavin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom D Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 I saw one on the loake factory tour keiths right fearsome , I also witnessed an awl & needle change on one of their outsole stitchers ( the speed he changed it was fantastic) io be honest it was like that scene in waynes world " were not worthy"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 We don't sell them as there is no demand and is a manufacturing machine. If you managed to source one in Europe, I suspect you would be looking at a price north of £40k. Stick to hand welting kobblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Looks like a Samuel Windsor welt stitch!! I was always taught 8 stitches per inch hand welting, they look about 1.5 per inch!!! keithm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Looks like a Samuel Windsor welt stitch!! I was always taught 8 stitches per inch hand welting, they look about 1.5 per inch!!! 8 stitches per inch? you went to a different school to me.!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 8 stitches per inch? you went to a different school to me.!! Never managed it!!! 4-5 would be about right for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Although time consuming, it's better for the shoe to restitch by hand, using the original holes anyway. kobblers and elfman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Although time consuming, it's better for the shoe to restitch by hand, using the original holes anyway. I have never seen a welted shoe that had 8 stitches per inch! Even the old Schol ladies welted never managed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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