Guest sarsden_boy Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 random images a.jpg[/attachment] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 nice one, another shoe repairer joins the forum...welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x minit uk Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Ah, thats what the sarsden factory looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Nice work. Don't you ever get any of those lovely thin ladies elastics to repair? Or is it mostly just high quality gents shoes that you get in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windycity Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 very good work but do you know why the army have 13 studs on their sole and what regiment the 13 refers to? a daft question but lets see who knows... but i guess with google you may all find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sarsden_boy Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 I actually was told this when i 1st started but i cant remember, i think its because its an army regulation to have 13 studs in each boot, the infantry regiment Yes dean we get all the awkward jobs in to. And plenty of ugg boots for new zips what a nighmare they are. Padded collers Gussets rolled back linings back stiffeners etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkb Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 very nice work indeed. thank you for sharing. 25 pair a day. i think thats impresive, but maby thats the norm. it looks as though the welt is pinked on the finished edge, (to be trimed latter). ive not seen this style before. if i may ask also,on your leather F.S. are your stitches in a channel, or laid on top. its been my habit close the knifed thread channel to protect the thread. how ever ive seen new shoes with exposed stitching, especially rubber. i love those (stitch track) soles, you call them. wished we had them here. who or what are they again? thank you bkb kansas usa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 but do you know why the army have 13 studs on their sole and what regiment the 13 refers to? Does 1 stud represents each of the original infantry battalions ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 the "stitch track" soles in the picture are called commando soles & come with a separate heel.you also get other ones with a different pattern called golfer soles although not as common Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 the "stitch track" soles in the picture are called commando soles & come with a separate heel.you also get other ones with a different pattern called golfer soles although not as common And you should always scour your heelblock area before stitching.....you'll learn....LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sarsden_boy Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 The soles and heels are called stitch track commando units. As for scouring the heel block area before stitching, that is only needed when the shoes are welted all the way round, the ones in the picture arnt they have a heel piece thats why they are tacked through into the inboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 You should scour the sole where the heel block goes to give a key so they adhere properly,welted or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 The soles and heels are called stitch track commando units. As for scouring the heel block area before stitching, that is only needed when the shoes are welted all the way round, the ones in the picture arnt they have a heel piece thats why they are tacked through into the inboard. So you don't agree that the heel blocks would stick better if you'd roughed them up first?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 if i'm not mistaken, he's tacitly saying that adhesive isn't used, just nails. if adhesive is used then a key must be created. except for superglue.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sarsden_boy Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Yes of course i always scour the backlift no matter what, but you dont always need to do it before you stitch them you can scour after sticthing on some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sarsden_boy Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 the "stitch track" soles in the picture are called commando soles & come with a separate heel.you also get other ones with a different pattern called golfer soles although not as common And you should always scour your heelblock area before stitching.....you'll learn....LOL All i am saying is that you dont have to scour the backlift before you stitch them, you can scour after stitching. Of course i use glue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 the "stitch track" soles in the picture are called commando soles & come with a separate heel. And you should always scour your heelblock area before stitching.....you'll learn....LOL All i am saying is that you dont have to scour the backlift before you stitch them, you can scour after stitching. Of course i use glue. Pointless scouring after you've stitched them, you'll just chaff all your fresh stitching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sarsden_boy Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 have a look at the image shown, there not stitched rite round, you wouldnt be scouring any stitching unless it was a pair stitched rite the way round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkb Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 anyway, looks like there still stuck on. care to share bout yer stitches in the leather. gruve -no gruve, close- no close? they look good no matter what was done. thanks bkb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sarsden_boy Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Yes there just groved by cutter then stitched and hammered ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 have a look at the image shown, there not stitched rite round The image shows the stitching in progress, but not the finished stitch, seems you've started stitching from the right point on the unit, so why not carry on all the way around, or did this footwear not have an ITS Hide Commando unit fitted originally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Manufacturers stitch all the way round weather they are welted all the way round or not, That card heel piece is not good enough quality to just stick too, as it just pulls a layer off. I always replace it with leather, may as well while you had them apart. that way you can retain the original size of the heel block, after others have scoured it away. I use this practice with all through soles. Why wouldn't you scour where the heel block area before stitching, weather you stitch all the way round or not, you still stitch partially under the heel block, and to roughen later would make it almost imposible to not scour your stitches............. its just easier :-& Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 The soles are "Itshide Commando" there is no need to scour before stitching if it is not possible or practicle to stitch around the heel area. What may be consusing is that the stitches appear to go into the base area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 The soles are "Itshide Commando" there is no need to scour before stitching if it is not possible or practicle to stitch around the heel area.What may be consusing is that the stitches appear to go into the base area. Sorry fella, its just common sense to roughen before stitching, its just easier...I think sarsden will even consede that. Is this the beginning of a fight LOLalot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkb Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 ??? when i close my seam i dont see my stitches no more i see yours, so i ??? no big deal bkb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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