Just about to embark into Car Key duplication and fob...

[DrFix]

Hi,  I am looking for some good advice amongst my fellow key cutting friends out there.  At present we dont touch car keys apart from popping the odd CR2032 battery into them.  We now want to supply and fit casings along with purchasing a duplication machine for cutting flat keys etc.  Can anyone recommend a machine that wouldn't cost more than £3000 we could kick start this project off with?  I have been looking at the KMB015 - GYMKANA 994 WITH CONSOLE KEYLINE MACHINE  from Davenport, is this a good starting point?  Any help or advice you can give would be much appreciated. For info, we are based in Aberdeen.   KIND REGARDS.  Craig

[k4mrc]

15 hours ago, DrFix said:

Hi,  I am looking for some good advice amongst my fellow key cutting friends out there.  At present we dont touch car keys apart from popping the odd CR2032 battery into them.  We now want to supply and fit casings along with purchasing a duplication machine for cutting flat keys etc.  Can anyone recommend a machine that wouldn't cost more than £3000 we could kick start this project off with?  I have been looking at the KMB015 - GYMKANA 994 WITH CONSOLE KEYLINE MACHINE  from Davenport, is this a good starting point?  Any help or advice you can give would be much appreciated. For info, we are based in Aberdeen.   KIND REGARDS.  Craig

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[CobblerElliot]

If you’re wanting to get into the coding side of things, I’ve got some equipment for sale. 

[DrFix]

Hi,  can you email more info at craig@drfix.Co.uk

Cheers

craig

[exp121260]

My advise is to start from basics and add-on as you gain more knowledge and experience. 

Do Not buy all fancy expensive machines to start with, you don't need all the machines at the early start. 

I would start with below to start with and test the waters, 

RST Mustang  laser key cutting machine 

Keydiy KD-X2 or the newer version ( KD-MAX) for key cloning and KD remote making 

I would also by Keyline Mini key cloning machine for ID48 transponders &  as a back up to the KD machine. 

Buy a Davenport or JAM  car key boards for pod /transponder keys and one keyboard for remote case/shell keys. 

& you need some popular transponder  pod keys and popular remote keys cases depending of what cars get asked for the most at your area. 

Vauxhall, Ford , Citroen/ Peugeot/Fiat, VW/Audi/Seat , Toyota/Kia/Hyundai  are the most asked for in my area. 

Hope this helps .. 

 

 

[rapidlocks]

You really need to approach this differently , first decide what it is you want to do from below ;

case changes , key cloning only

remote repairs ie buttons rechargable batteries etc.

spare keys only by obd

all keys lost jobs 

for instance if not looking to do all keys lost jobs then you dont need a cut to code machine as you will get by with manual machines as will have a key to cut from , though a case for a cut to code machine can be made for worn keys , snapped keys and bent keys where tracing wont always work , but this does require additional skills and tools like site reading keys , possibly having to pick and decode the lock if key damaged or too badly worn.

if not interested in all keys lost then you dont need a good obd programmer , though again a case can be made for having a good obd programmer if wanting to do remote keys as many of these cannot be simply cloned and the only way to code a remote key will be by obd , alot you can clone the chip but will need an obd programmer to code the remote , all with intergrated chip can only be coded by obd.

if not having an obd programmer then you limit what remote keys you can program as alot can only be coded by obd , not as many can be manually coded as in past.

if only interested in cloning and manual keys then this reduces the kit you will need , manual machines and a good cloner like silca rw4 plus and possibly the xhorse or key diy tool will have this covered.

if as your post suggests you just want to get into case changes for now then a cut to code machine is overkill , a cylinder machine and a good laser machine like mustang , keyline punto or silca matrix will do the keys you will require for just case changes , so a very low set up cost even with the stock.

case changes always do your checks , see their remote working , read the transponder with a clone tool before doing the case change as alot will bring you a broken key , claim it was working before you did the case change and expect you to pay for the new key , probably the most common case changes are vag , vauxhall and hyundai/kia as these all seem to suffer from metal fatigue on flip unit where blade comes away from remote , a common failure on these .

the kit and machines you need depends wholly on what you hope to cover and the work you think you will get and have the skill set to complete , so work out where you want to start and match kit to this rather than buy blind , you then have a plan .

as has been said above , the most common you will be asked for is ford , vauxhall , fiat , psa , hyundai/kia , renault , vag.

for most above like psa , renault , fiat , vauxhall you will need an obd programmer as cloning for a new remote key is not an option , obd is the way for a remote key even a spare.

so work out where you want to start and what you want to offer and buy kit from there.

[hibsjo(SCO)]

if you search the forum a lot has been written about venturing into the abyss known as car keys.

@rapidlocks has written some very good pieces on here and offers very good advice.

carry on!

[davemabey]

I have Keyline 884 and stock

Miracle A9 edge

Smart pro

Tibbe key machine 

for sale

 

[da miller]

how did you get on with car key side of things

what did you buy