hibsjo(SCO) Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Who does it? how much do you charge? and how long does it take you? my usual dyer has stopped carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 I do............. Leather ,Suede, Plastic, Satin, easy peasy. £21.95 per pair. If anyone has any Black or Navy Dylon multipurpose or any other colours you need rid of let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted June 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 so Gray what do you use? water based or spirit based? not easy peasy! done properly very time consuming? carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 I'll PM you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobbler2u Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Here is a company very professional work is excellent and very well priced http://www.baboucha.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted June 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Pretty much got it covered(no pun intended) with RLJ New trade service for the industry Carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Joe, there used to be a company in Edinboroughoroghroo, went by the name of Dye For you or some derivative of this name. Proper company was ZZAJ "Jazz backword" 57 Broughton St. EH1 3RJ.(specialised in Dance shoes). Best I have seen in the UK but it was probably 15 years ago.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted June 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 i used to deal with them Hugh no one ever amswers the phone anymore i know they moved a few years back carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dude Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 ZZAJ are defunked.... probably because they were crap.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 ZZAJ are defunked.... probably because they were crap.... Deflamatory statement there Happy Dude. I found them 1st class, but with every type of service there are always problems that will develop. This is the very reason very few folk will take on Dying for others. Frank Harvey at Stowmarket also used to do Dying but they also had problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dude Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 ZZAJ are defunked.... probably because they were crap.... Deflamatory statement there Happy Dude. I found them 1st class, but with every type of service there are always problems that will develop. This is the very reason very few folk will take on Dying for others. Frank Harvey at Stowmarket also used to do Dying but they also had problems. hugh... i'm edinburgh based and their shop was about 2 miles across the town from me and i used to get a lot of people coming in with shoes dyed by them asking me if i thought it was a good job, so i've seen a fair bit of their work, some pretty good and some downright shocking... my cousin took 4 pairs of satin wedding shoes in with a swatch of burgundy material for colour, she had to sign a disclaimer stating ZZAJ weren't responsible if the colour wasn't an exact match which is fair enough, she got 4 pair of BROWN shoes back, i told her to take them back and tell them she had shown them to me and i told her that they had done a BAD job, not merely missed the colour of her sample by a shade lighter or darker, but all they did was point at their disclaimer sign.... she had to buy 4 new pairs of shoes and with her confidence destroyed left them ivory how i wish i could do my work with no acountability, how many keys would you get if you made someone sign something stating that if their key doesn't fit or we use the wrong blank there is no refunds... if you set yourself up as a professional at something then you have to do a professional job, it's fair enough have a disclaimer for not getting it exactly right but take your lumps if you make a total arse of it like they did with my cousins shoes... another one of my customers about 6 years ago took a pair of very expensive tan cowboy boots in to be dyed black, they did them with a miss dylon or lady esquire type shoe colour not dye, within a week it was peeling off in strips from the legs of both boots, they charged him £45 to do them, i took them in, scrubbed them clean, dyed them with meltonian and polished them with kiwi and charged him £15... he still brings them to me to be repaired and they are still black.... i have other examples but i think you get the picture of why i had a low opinion of them, i couldn't recommend a service to my customers that i wouldn't use myself, my conscience couldn't stand it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 Apart from Satin type (and there are many problems with Satin/Crepe if there is adhesive reside under the upper, or if they have been teated with a stain repellant, or even bleached by some unscrupulous traders) then the Dyes they used were Acrylic, that is Dylon/Ladt Esquire type, these colourants were sprayed on and the results are not much better than DIY jobs in wear. That is to say all the problems you would have, so to would they. As for Disclaimers...that is a practice that is against Trading Standards Law in England and is illegal, not worth the paper it's written on, dont know about over the border though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 I can give a lot of advice on shoe dyeing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dude Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 i stopped dying shoes a long time ago, my shop doesn't have adequate ventilation as the back windows are bricked up and the fumes from the cleaner gives me a sore head, when i did do it i only did black after getting it tight from awkward customers for not getting the correct shade of brown or navy, the hardest part really is reaching the customers expectations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Fumes? Doing your head in? You need an 'Airflo Workstation' http://www.standardgroup.co.uk/shoe-rep ... ir-flo.htm Click on the PDF at the bottom for more info Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k4mrc Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 one of the lads that work for me took a pair of mens shoes in recently, I had a go at him as he 'only' charged £25-00 Mens shoes to Black, he stated it was 'easy money' I still angry told him to easily do it then, upto now he has put 2 coats on and there still 'not ready!' best thing is he has now left them for one of us to finish - but I am insisting he does them - to get the point of just 'how easy' this job really is! I insist on charging a MINIMUM of £35-00 - I know most people will not pay this, and the ones that do you can spend the time and do the job correctly and make a small profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 What dye is he using? Hopefully a spirit dye. Are you buying it in 1/2 ltrs. Works out cheaper. One coat of spirit dye should crack it really then just a good polish. Then sell the customer some black laces and polish. \:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 i stopped dying shoes a long time ago, my shop doesn't have adequate ventilation as the back windows are bricked up and the fumes from the cleaner gives me a sore head, when i did do it i only did black after getting it tight from awkward customers for not getting the correct shade of brown or navy, the hardest part really is reaching the customers expectations... The secret is making your own expectations higher than the customers. What would you be happy with? If you can't meet your own high standards or what "YOU" would accept then you will fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Am92 Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 The secret is making your own expectations higher than the customers. What would you be happy with? If you can't meet your own high standards then you will fail. Wise words, best applied on everything you do. =D> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dude Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 i stopped dying shoes a long time ago, my shop doesn't have adequate ventilation as the back windows are bricked up and the fumes from the cleaner gives me a sore head, when i did do it i only did black after getting it tight from awkward customers for not getting the correct shade of brown or navy, the hardest part really is reaching the customers expectations... The secret is making your own expectations higher than the customers. What would you be happy with? If you can't meet your own high standards or what "YOU" would accept then you will fail. you are missing the point, i do have very high standards in all my work but the expectations on dying anything other than black is measured in the shade of blue/brown they come out, too dark/too light/just right what's the customer expecting?? you can say to them that the shoes might not be exactly the colour they wanted but they are still disappointed if it's not exactly what they were hoping for, even though you do the best job in the world and make them look like brand new shoes straight out the box, if they are the wrong shade they are disappointed and i don't do disappointed customers, this is why i stopped doing everything except black, henry ford had it right... =D> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Oi back off the mike son. I wasn't having a go at you. Jesus must be the hot weather. Touchy or what. If Henry Ford had it right then my Ford would be Black not Blue. Do you not show your customers samples of colours or ask them to bring in colours they want to match too. All part of the service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dude Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Oi back off the mike son. I wasn't having a go at you. Jesus must be the hot weather. Touchy or what. If Henry Ford had it right then my Ford would be Black not Blue. Do you not show your customers samples of colours or ask them to bring in colours they want to match too. All part of the service. ??? maybe you need to wind your neck in, i don't understand what you mean, i wasn't having a go at you, all i pointed out was you missed the point, maybe the heats got to you...?? it's not been hot up here, i had my heating on at home over the weekend, it was 2c in some parts of scotland last night, a balmy 17c in edinburgh just now which is just fine.... i never did satin shoes, i leave that to "professionals" like ZZAJ.... i did leather and suede but now don't do any because (a) the ventilation problem and ( i just hated doing it and can survive very well without it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 All boils down to frustration, you want the best for your customers but cant get what you expect. I feel sorry for the ones who serve me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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