Simes Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Hi, Bought a Patcher off of ebay. Was working fine, but mysteriously stopped working when I needed it! I have been away from these machines for nearly 20 years so a bit stuck! I have now managed to get it to stitch through one leather patch thickness, but it drops the stitches when double thickness. On top of that I can't seem to adjust the stitch length from very small. I have tried adjusting the feeder arm but it makes no difference, actually the whole assembly seems quite loose. What do you reckon? Terminal? Or should I get an engineer to it and if so how much is it likely to set me back...before parts? Can't really afford to splash out on a new one at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Stitch length first, if the whole assembly is loose there are 2 screws that have worked loose. these are awkward to get at but hold the bit that has the turning wings on (they are located from below and inside the ring). if it is missing it may well be excessive play in the shuttle driver, if you look behind the chrome arm that holds the shuttle driver you will see a small hole, turn the machine over until you see a screw appear in the hole and see if it is loose. Make sure you go to the technical downloads section as well and check the 29k71 manual. http://www.shoerepairer.info/index.php?ind=downloads&op=entry_view&iden=88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 if it was stitching & now through one thickness, the needle might be bent (is it passing dead centre through the hole on the shuttle cover) replace the needle! As far as not affording one (sorry peter) you can get these replacement heads from Standard for just over a grand! I got one a few months ago & its been excellent! with reproduction heads as good as this, those old singer 29k's will be finding wheelie bins all over the country! Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 So... who's been spraying singer machines then?????? good job whoever it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 reproduction / counterfeit head (NEW) not a sprayed singer, on a painted colour matched singer base (my old one) Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Looks very nice, but is the copy Head a Chinese one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Looks very nice, but is the copy Head a Chinese one? Far east Hughby, they're our's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Ipswich? really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenB Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 No Peter, Ipswich is only East. Lowestoft is Far East Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Looks very nice, but is the copy Head a Chinese one? Far east Hughby, they're our's Enlighten me please Keith, when you say "ours" do you mean that it's a gen Singer head refurbished, or a new Head made in the Far East and fitted/supplied by you. I have seen a Recon Head done recently by yourselves and the operator (very experienced in Maintenance) was very impressed. Soon as I walked into his shop he said, "glad youve popped in, come and have a look at this Patcher from Standard". If your engineers are to be given the credit as I suspect, what happened in the chain of events that has led to your new status as Master Fitters? Looks like I may have to get on my knees and beg forgiveness for all the crap comments I have made about Recon Singer Machines in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 They are new heads from the far east Hughbedo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 It was supplied to me & I colour matched it, painted my old base & fitted it straight onto it; I have to say the spares kit that came with it was also impressive! It included the 4 bolts to fit it to the base, springs, bobbins, needles, screw drivers & an oiler. I feel guilty singing the praises of Standard when peters on the topic as well but you have to speak as you find & so far I've no regrets at buying this gem, at the price standard are selling them for I could afford to throw it away every few years & replace it with a new one. Only criticism I have is you can't buy a reproduction treadle base to go with it. It makes old head valueless & treadles priceless! Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 What they said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfman Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 i have 2 29k in the shop 1 iwas given a few months ago with a box full of spares of whichi know is at least 25 years old and still does all it is asked to do, the second is the one that came with the shop it has parts missing and no shuttle retaining spring but with a small elastic hairband about 1/2 in dia and apiece of velro this will also stictch with no problem so why should i think about replacing them,both machines have been used to make t straps and then attacth them to the shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfman Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 oh forgot the both have working treadles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 Took one of those made in the Far East apart some years ago and was very surprised...not seen hand made screws since the 50s. The threads looked as though they had been cut with a Junior Hacksaw. Sloppy fit and kept dropping out. I hope the standard has much improved. (£500 was the cost then). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 I have an old Singer a 29 K 4 No 14714656. I think it is pretty old early 1900's? What say you experts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 a 4 is dead early and you could well be right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 I concur Year of Manufacturer 1897 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 I love it when i'm right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenB Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 I love it when i'm right. yeah, but only because it doesn't happen very often... :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 I know I'm human. I'm not a machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 I concur Year of Manufacturer 1897 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Wow thanks Keith. It's 113 years old. I'll give it a polish. And place it carefully in my shop window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Clean thouroughly with WD40 which won't damage the decals but will clean it and leave it shiny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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