cobblers&keys Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 I need my cutters & heel trimmer sharpened. Does anybody do or know anybody that does this service Please. (I need a full set sharpening) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 i take it that they are tungsten? if so we can get them done if you send them to us - so long as the teeth are not damaged as we cannot replace these. if they are steel they may be worth just replacing as they are about £25 each. Or someone on the forum may be willing to do them for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sarsden_boy Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 its quite easy to sharpen them yourself, but dont let health and saftey see you doing it without a guide on your stone disc, il try and gather some info and tell you how to do it, remember to count 16 teeth otherwise you wont know where u started lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Please be very carefull in what you are doing here gents, it is very easy to lose fingers. If I were to give advice on this subject and I wont, it would be to use a "White" stone only, the brown ones disinegrate far too easily. Look in the Yellow pages for Saw Sharpening in your area, these guys sharpen just about everything, including Key machine cutting wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 I would not advocate sharpening, as Hugh says, very risky. We received a directive from the EU a couple of years ago refering to 'incidents' where people had received injuries following cutter sharpening. Our decision was to remove cutter sharpening in order to prevent any problems arising from misuse. They suggested that we enclose 90% of the sharpening stone. Have you ever tried sharpening on a machine like that? Tungsten heel cutter as standard and replacement steel forepart cutters is the way we go. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 I would not advocate sharpening, ...............replacement steel forepart cutters is the way we go. Keith Well I've been sharpening steel forepart cutters since the 80's on the WHB 700 using the attachment supplied. Still have four fingers & a thumb on each hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 But you are an exeption to the rule Tel There are a lot more 'young' relatively inexperienced repairers out there nowadays who have not had the benefit of training or possess your level of expertise who we have to be mindful of. We have to take our duty of care very seriously for obvious reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sarsden_boy Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 i sharpen cutters every working day as they get some hammer, im young but in the six years of repairing never had any problems on the white stone disc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 tel, could you post some pics on how to sharpen the cutters on the 700 please? we have the wheel (yes, i've used 'em lotsa times before) but i have no idea how it functions on the 700. (make sure you submit an idiot disclaimer ) cheers, rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 But you are an exception to the rule Tel There are a lot more 'young' Hey I'm still young, I'm only 45 Tel, could you post some pics on how to sharpen the cutters on the 700 please? I sure can, This is a scan from the manual. \:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 (make sure you submit an idiot disclaimer ) Disclaimer The information contained in this topic is provided 'as is' without warranty of any kind. The entire risk as to the results and the performance of the information is assumed by the user, and in no event shall anyone be liable for any consequential, incidental or direct damages suffered in the course of using the information in this archive. The author reserves the right not to be responsible for the topicality, correctness, completeness or quality of the information provided. Liability claims regarding damage caused by the use of any information provided, including any kind of information, which is incomplete or incorrect, will therefore be rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Idiot Disclaimer: "I wasnt told they were old facts when we invaded" T.Blair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfman Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 your lynx machine had a very good attachment for sharpening cutters kieth and it was and still is a simple task to do like tell i have done this since the 80,s and shown at least 5 trainees to do it . they can all do it but will only do it if they have to becouse it scares them but i always tell them that if you treat it like a good women with care and attention then it wont hurt you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 I am a little bit puzzled here Keith & Peter. Steel profile cutters of which I had 14 differing sizes would need to be sharpened on a weekly basis, some on a daily basis and one on an hourly basis. Are you saying that where there is substamtial use of these trimmers that they should be replaced each time that they need sharpening? Dont tell me that it is better to use a tungsten one, H&S alone moves this cutter into the no go zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 hahahahahaha peter tel i owe you a very large short if we ever meet cheers, rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 tungsten sole trimmers are virtually unavailable now, the uk manufacturer no longer manufactures them. the steel ones can be sharpened yes, if properly trained and with good equipment but too many times i have seen them being sharpened improperly and without the right equipment. once i saw someone doing it freehand when the stone bit and it flew out of his hand, lethal. i just think it is better to replace them as most repairers only use 2 or 3 sizes and sending away for resharpening would cost as much as replacing. the power master had the best sharpening system i have seen i'll get a photo when i can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 As a matter of interest, How much are these Cutters new, never brought any in 31 years, always seem to have some knocking about the place... and have always sharpened my own, even freehand Peter always wore eye protection and never had a drama. Although I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 top of my head about £28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 top of my head about £28 What about off the shelf...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 Christ, I nearly said' I concur with Pete then ' But I do Shoe repairers sharpening cutters weekly Never seen it in 30 years in the trade 24 as a shoe repairer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 Shoe repairers sharpening cutters weekly Never seen it in 30 years in the trade Well you can't trim the likes of JR products cleanly if you don't, I have a range of cutter sizes/irons, 4 of which are in regular use & get re-ground once a week. If they weren't sharpened regularly then it wouldn't be a cutter, would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 Take your point Tel, but the onus as far as the EU seems to be concerned is, get a specialist to do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 Well after 30 years doing it, I guess I'm a specialist \:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 Ok everyone, send ya cutters to Tel and he'll sharpen 'em Done, phew \:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 ive heard you called many things tel, specialist wasnt one perhaps you could use your talent and offer a trade sharpening service for others that dont want to do it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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