ironplanet uk900 Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Yeah, "the place I normally get them from gives me 55% off the catalogue price and gives me free engraving" Go there then mate: Out off interest, What do you guys/girls(annie) charge for say engraving an annual shield with a name and a date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 £7.95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 £4.50 but going up soon!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 this is a queston posed in the yearly price survey and the average of 20 members who replied was £6.27 (for an existing shield not a new one) for a new shield & engraving averaged out at £8.34. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted May 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 michael, I also charge £4.50 and am thinking of a price increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 What are you gonna go to UK? I thought £5 , any more would be too much of a jump. Cylindrical work from £7.50 to £8 Haven't put the engraving or key prices up for over a year!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted May 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 I though a fiver as well, I charge Minimum £8 for cylindrical. And minimum £10 for white infill on plastic plinths. We are simillar on our prices. I don't mind giving a little discount for bigger orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 I hate them bloody plastic plinths with white infill, they never look nice... could be my crap engraving I suppose Nearly finished engraving 70 medals, feels like i've been on here all afternoon...OH I have! Good job it's been Quiet on repairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted May 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Yeah we've been quiet on repairs today, But have had my best day in the 7 weeks I've been here on engraving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 I though a fiver as well, I charge Minimum £8 for cylindrical. And minimum £10 for white infill on plastic plinths. We are simillar on our prices. I don't mind giving a little discount for bigger orders. The £7.95 I quoted is for a 1 off on existing shield, but if I'm doing a batch of 10 or more annuals, they would be £6 a hit flat or cylindrical. A 1 off cylindrical would be £9.50, £10 if filled. I hate them bloody plastic plinths with white infill, they never look nice...could be my crap engraving I suppose Cut & white infill is easy, use a .25mm cutter & cut to a .2mm depth, where possible use a nose cone. My engraving is always the best on the plinth, unless I've engraved it previously & then it's equal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 [Cut & white infill is easy, use a .25mm cutter & cut to a .2mm depth, where possible use a nose cone.My engraving is always the best on the plinth, unless I've engraved it previously & then it's equal I always use a nose cone on these plinths There are no disadvantages of using one - only advantages I don't trust that these plinths are perfectly proportioned all the way round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcobbler Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 £6 FOR NAME AND YEAR PLASTIC £10-£15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain Cheall Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 mmmm think i need to move. Since the survey I put my prices up to...... £3 for a existing side shield and £4 for a side shield I supplied. Trouble was first customer who came in said she would get them this time but there is a guy in a nearby town with a pantograph knocking them out for £2.50!!!!!!! So I've had to drop down to £3.50 for ones I supply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted May 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 I never adjust my price to suit the competition. Some of you will say thats a crap theory, but it's stood good by me for the last 20 years. A mixture of high quality, a good reputation & customer relations is the key. (in my humble opinion ) Cheap ain't good & good ain't cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 mmmm think i need to move. Since the survey I put my prices up to...... £3 for a existing side shield and £4 for a side shield I supplied. Trouble was first customer who came in said she would get them this time but there is a guy in a nearby town with a pantograph knocking them out for £2.50!!!!!!! So I'm had to drop down to £3.50 for ones I supply However if you doubled your existing side shield price to £6 you would have to do half as many to turn over the same. So you lose 1 in 3 your still up in the till, and working less hard. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted May 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 I agree with Lee, Also if your work is good quality then you won't lose as many. Don't be a busy fool Iain, Its hard enough being busy...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 I concur wholeheartedley with the last two post. However, I would like to add the following. Apply that theory across all the services you offer and raise your revenue. Then you can have that extra holiday you promised yourself! Or pay for the refit/upgrade that you've been putting off for too long Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted May 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Another point, why invest thousands of pounds on computerised engraving systems only to charge pennies for your services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 So I'm had to drop down to £3.50 for ones I supply Shaking head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain Cheall Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 However if you doubled your existing side shield price to £6 you would have to do half as many to turn over the same. So you lose 1 in 3 your still up in the till, and working less hard. Lee I see your logic in this statement however I am of the opinion that I would lose 3 out of 3 and wouldn't be working at all. I am making a fair living charging premiun rates for glassware and plaques and things like that I don't need to take my customers eyes out over a 5 minute job like a side shield, I leave that to my nearest rival who after 25 years robbing the locals has felt the need to put his business on the market after 4 years of me robbing his customers and not even he charges £5 for a side shield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windycity Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 iain why do you think that charging more than 3.00 per side shield is robbing joe public? and the fact you take delight in stealing customers from elsewhere by charging stupid prices says alot. paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted May 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 I had a guy in the new shop a few weeks ago with eighteen shields to be engraved. The previous engraving was diabolical, up there with the worst I have ever seen. I normally charge around 4.50-5.00 each, but quoted £3 each to secure the order. it came to £54 in total so I rounded it off to £50. Unusual for me as I rarly budge on the price. The guy refused and said the guy who normally does them only charges £1 each. I pointed out that we engrave to a high standard, and if he was happy to present that diabolical engraving to thier clubs winners on thier presentation night then he'd better go thier. Last week he came in the shop and ordered a £70 annual shield!! never mentioned discounts or owt !! I made a real pucker job of the engraving and he was visually impressed with it when he came back. Wonder if he'll bring those annuals in next year now he's seen the difference in quality. O yeah, and I always engrave the side shield with an unusual font, then tell the customer "if you do take the shield elsewhere next year for the engraving, make sure they use the same font, as it'll spoil he look of your shield" They always come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 I always engrave the side shield with an unusual font, So you don't use the traditional Helvetica 1 line @ 2.5mm. What font do you use then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted May 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 One that you ain't got What I'm saying is I'd rather gain my customers through quality not price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 I hate engraving shields with boring one line fonts We've got so many weird and wonderful fonts and it's a shame to waste them. I see it as dull and unimaginative rather than "traditional." However, when a customer brings in an old shield we do match up the font whether it be railway or whatever just incase the customer/club kicks up a fuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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