ciawest Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 The profile is very similar to ya-281d (JMA) but that doesn't fit the lock. The Customers key is a bit thinner and shorter. The Dimensions of the key are 37.5x8.75x2.38mm. I've been looking myself and think the 'KGBM1' Gatemate key or ' wan-1d' Wanjin, might be suitable but i don't have in stock so I can't check atm. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 I’ve been using the avocet pioneer blank for a lot of this type of key when they aren’t branded ciawest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 Silca WJ1R does these fine i have cut loads of these. ciawest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciawest Posted November 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, Count Muppet said: I’ve been using the avocet pioneer blank for a lot of this type of key when they aren’t branded i didn't think of that one lol. Looked like a good match too but it is over 5mm too short or would that not matter? Could i cut it on the A9 Miracle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciawest Posted November 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, grahamparker said: Silca WJ1R does these fine i have cut loads of these. Thanks Graham, So that would be long enough? I can't find that key on the A9 miracle. I'm guessing it can't cut those Would you or anyone be able to make copies from the picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 Have a look under Hooply for a cutting card there is an 8 pin version and 3 7 pin versions. Some decode fine on my Triax but others don’t so I cut them manually on the Magnum. ciawest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin b Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Silca WJ1R is not on the A9 Miracle can anyone screen shot me the instacode screens for the 8 pin and the 3 x 7 pin screens so i can add them too my A9 machine please Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciawest Posted December 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 On 11/30/2018 at 7:44 PM, grahamparker said: Have a look under Hooply for a cutting card there is an 8 pin version and 3 7 pin versions. Some decode fine on my Triax but others don’t so I cut them manually on the Magnum. Hooply, doesn't seem to appear on the A9 miracle I think i should maybe invest in a Magnum now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin b Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 If hooply is on instacode you can add the details to the a9 yourself You have the instacode details can you pass them on to me please so I can add them to my machine Thanks ciawest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the locksmith Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 5 different cards for WJ1R ciawest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin b Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 cheers dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 There are some keys that will not decode on any of those 5 cards that’s why the Magnum is such a valuable backup machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciawest Posted December 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 22 hours ago, pomsecurity said: If hooply is on instacode you can add the details to the a9 yourself You have the instacode details can you pass them on to me please so I can add them to my machine Thanks wow, I didn't know you could do that. Hopefully i'll manage to add the data to my machine It will be interesting if i can work out other unknown keys and add the data i think it should be myself, hmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciawest Posted December 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Dave the locksmith said: 5 different cards for WJ1R Thanks dave Hopefully i'll manage to add the data to my A9 correctly and be able to make copies of the key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciawest Posted December 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 6 hours ago, grahamparker said: There are some keys that will not decode on any of those 5 cards that’s why the Magnum is such a valuable backup machine. Looks like you are correct none of those key cards got all the measurements. I decided to work out the measurements myself. I think it has turned out quite well just need to get the WJ1R blanks in and see if they cut correctly, fingers crossed Growster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin b Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 Im sure you will suss it just like you can add your own brisant card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciawest Posted December 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 12/5/2018 at 12:13 PM, pomsecurity said: Im sure you will suss it just like you can add your own brisant card thanks, I always like finding out and learning new things. I've only ever had to do ultion U keys from the brisant section so far, are there more brisant cards than the ones that appear on the A9 Miracle :S Anyway, I've made my first copy and it has came out great thanks for the help every1. Just not sure how to price now, I'm think the same price as my ultion keys but since i had to do a lot more work for them i was thinking maybe making them dearer? Any suggestions/advice/opinions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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