Ridgeback Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 KL1SF48DJ9B691885 I have had a P-Box since they came out so I am familiar with the process of snooping. No-one from Silca available to assist so maybe a member has had similar problem Non remote key detected by reading. Snoop reset Go to car Despite trying every position on the key, I cannot get any LED indicator readings. Sorry for last 2 pics, locked in vertical position by camera Any help appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Chevrolet Aveo should clone without snoop onto T33 chip. It should be ID48-A Silca http://www.aldridgesecurity.co.uk/p-8073-silca-id48-light-t33-transponder-chip-to-suit-megamos-crypto.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeback Posted June 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Hi Graham, Thanks for link. Unfortunately copying to a T33 was not an option, only to T48 (2nd pic) and then resetting snoop. That makes sense as to why I was not getting a reading, but does not explain why the unit is fixed to the T48 route. I powered it down a couple of times, but still got the same sequence. The M-Box was turned on, just wondering if it needs to be switched off for ID48-A copying, just a thought. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 To be honest i have not tried to do a t33 chip since recieving my M-Box, it may be you have discovered a major bug in the RW4 software. I will be speaking to Lee or Matt at Silca tommorow so i will ask about it, i may have an old chip i can try cloning to see what my box suggests. Have you tried upgrading the firmware on the RW4 since connecting the M Box, i switched mine off at the weekend and when i switched it back on there was a firmware update so i ran it no need to connect to a pc anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeback Posted June 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Just found an old 2B Chevrolet key Reads it as "MEG-CR 48-A" alternates screen to "COPY TO T33" which is correct, so I don't know why the Aveo was reading as a MEGAMOS 48 I'll try and get back tomorrow and experiment a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 That is exactly what i would expect to see as well. Was it deffinately 2009 or did it have a private plate on it as it may have been a later model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eimco Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Do you have a M-box or a P-box. From your pictures it seems you don't have a M-box. You don't need a M-box to to the chev key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eimco Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Oh also what colour is your snoop the P-box is a greyish colour and the M-box one is red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Muppet Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 You didn't use the wrong snoop out of habit did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeback Posted June 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 That is exactly what i would expect to see as well. Was it deffinately 2009 or did it have a private plate on it as it may have been a later model. SE09 KHY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeback Posted June 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Do you have a M-box or a P-box. From your pictures it seems you don't have a M-box. You don't need a M-box to to the chev key. I have a P-Box and an M-Box eimco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeback Posted June 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Oh also what colour is your snoop the P-box is a greyish colour and the M-box one is red. Definitely used the red one, but it wasn't needed as it was a ID48-A which should have simply copied to a T33 chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 SE09 KHY Could be private reg dependant on initials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eimco Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I have a P-Box and an M-Box Ok well add it to the other problems the M-box is having at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 What other problems ??. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eimco Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 What other problems ??.A lot of writing errors when writhing the chips And when the calculation is done and the RW4 asks for the original key it's say verify key position and then says it's the incorrect transponder even though it's the customers key. Did one yesterday at it took just shy of 1 hour. 28 mins of calculating and then writing errors and verify key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Not had any problems at all when programming ID48 chips so far i think i have done about 18 so far. The only issue has been time with the longest taking 1 hour to decode which was a vw caddy last week, did an iveco and a punto yesterday and both took approx 10 minutes. Habe you upgraded the firmware on all devices ?. I had to do my P box firmware late last year and you need the little orange 9 pin serial adapter to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eimco Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Not had any problems at all when programming ID48 chips so far i think i have done about 18 so far. The only issue has been time with the longest taking 1 hour to decode which was a vw caddy last week, did an iveco and a punto yesterday and both took approx 10 minutes. Habe you upgraded the firmware on all devices ?. I had to do my P box firmware late last year and you need the little orange 9 pin serial adapter to do it. Done over 30 since I got the box everything is upto date checked it last night before leaving the shop. It's annoying cause it works and very happy with it great addition to the business. P-box and M-box all on the latest software. It's mad I must be the only one with problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeback Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 What other problems ??. Initially reading the key. I have a 2009 VW Caddy that I tried it on when it first arrived. I find that you have to read and ESC the key 3-4 times before finally it says to remove the key, and reset snoop. Did this with both of my keys. When the calculations had finished on both which only took 3-4 minutes, showed write error to new T48 chips, but both worked perfectly when tried. Just put it down to beginner user error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silcaltd Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 EST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeback Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 RFI.png The only thing that will interfere with mine will be my phone, as I'm mobile and power from the 12v cigarette lighter socket, so I'll keep it away when I do the next one. Thanks for the update, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeback Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Went back this morning armed with more tools. Still reading the key as yesterday and wants to copy to T48 Turned off PBox and MBox, re-read key, still says its a ID48 Read the key in my Miraclone and confirmed its definitely an ID48 and not an ID48-A as "WR" is missing next to CR2 (1st picture) The 2nd picture is from a spare Chev ID48-A key that shows the "WR" Just to make sure the snoop hadn't gone faulty, tried it again in my VW Caddy and it worked fine. So back to square one, why can't the snoop get a reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Have you tried putting the snoop antenae near the ignition holding it by hand then inserting the key, some ID46 have to be done that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeback Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Have you tried putting the snoop antenae near the ignition holding it by hand then inserting the key, some ID46 have to be done that way. Tried that yesterday as a last ditch attempt but still nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeback Posted June 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Finally got to the bottom of this mystery. Had a very interesting chat with Lee from Silca, and now it makes sense. We have concluded that this was originally a lost key job, and that a normal ID48 chip in a non remote key, was programmed to it, just to get it up and running as the 2 button remote keys are very expensive. It wouldn't sniff because the system is a ID48-A. The RW4 detects the ID48 chip in the key and assumes its a ID48 system, and continues the snooping process. The learning curve continues. grahamparker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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