lock&quay Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Over the past two days 25 Transit vans have had equipment stolen from them in my area , All had the Tibbe key I've been asked to advise on the most likely way they got into the Vans , Tibbe Pick ? Remote blocker ? Through the car technique ? 12v feed ? what ever .. any comments or Pms would be welcome , I've not done this type of work for over 6 years now & so I haven't kept up to date with stuff . cheers . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Pick is the most obvious way and freely available on the internet. http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=tibbie+pick The downside to Tibbie locks is that they can be locked with any key so sometimes a van can be emptied without the owner even realising for hours,even days afterwards especially if there is no damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkD Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 A trivial opening for anyone who has spent 30 minutes playing with the cheap tools. There was a 'locksmith' locked up recently for doing exactly this after learning how on a 2 day training course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lock&quay Posted February 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 But wouldn't the Alarm go off ? I'm thinking jammer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrimperfan Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 No alarm is taken off if you pick the door with a £20 pick from China... Shrimperfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 cheap tibbe pick , a quick google , very little practice and these fall open , sold online everywhere to anyone . 1 turn doors open 2 turns and backs open , easy pickings . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Friend Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 sell the deadlocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaloti Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 I'm surprised to see any transits left in Essex. They are being re-located by the hour down here. OBD blocker is the best answer. Big yellow box over the peddles is a bonus. I've had a couple recently where the centipede has been broken in the ignition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 OBD Blocker does not stop them stealing the tools from the van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 all you can do is make life hard , if they want in and have time they will get in often the damage they cause can write off a vehicle . cctv is good for evidence after the crime or evidence that it was in fact broken into . the new shape vivaro and traffic are very susceptable to attack with tin snips in right place , richard at garrison locks in leicester has helped develop some really good internal sheilding to slow them down . only a fool these days leaves their high value items in the van at night , a moments lack of concentration a senile moment and they are gone , key machines properly anchored in and protected are maybe not able to be lifted in and out so easily , though no excuse for diag kit to be left in , if you cant stop them you can at least limit what they get. i see so many vans with no protection at all its laughable , the worst i saw was at a trade show , an auto locksmith with a nicely kitted out van , good machines , racking and kit on board a transit with no additional security despite advertising the fitting of van security locks on the unprotected van . locksure offer excellent contents cover up to what ever value you stipulate they will make you up a policy , though its advised to photograph and list all your high value items as well as list serial numbers and send them an itemised copy for the records . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfern Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Decent deadlocks on rear doors (assuming the front is separated by a shield), DECENT alarm, just to let you know it's being broken into. Also definitely remove programmers at night. Seriously bolt down key machines. Like Rapid says, just got to make it as hard as possible for them to take stuff. If they want to get in they will. This is obviously apart from them nicking your keys somehow. Really feel for you guys as I lived and worked in London from 2000-2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamine16 Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 A friend of mine had his 2015 sprinter nicked last night. He got it back due to the tracker. There was no signs of forced entry, but clear evidence of the EIS being removed. The only thing I can think of is that they swapped the EIS, moved the van and put the original EIS back. I didn't think it was that easy with the new mercs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Southern Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 You can't just swap the EIS and key from another vehicle, it will not work. Only way to get it to start will be with a valid key for that vehicle. Unfortunately thieves can also buy programming equipment and learn how to use it. The vehicle may not have been deadlocked so easy to rod open, or pick the lock if you have the capabilities. Most Sprinters are not alarmed so they have all the time they need to programme a new key to the EIS without drawing attention. With a bit of practice they could drive it away with a working key in less than 30 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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