attaching a motor to an outsole ????

[Guest Klazykobbler]

Hi all

 

gone and got myself an ancient outsole stitcher.At one time it did have a motor on it but this was chucked when it gave up the ghost about the same time that the fella i bought this from stopped repairing.it does stitch real nice but hand cranking this anit fun!

 

I have sopken to Standard about attaching a motor to it they advise a complete refit and recondition the head (approx £4.5K!). I know the guys and girls at standard are very knowledgeable and have a great deal of experience in this area. I was gong to speak to Siserve aswell but me shop phone completely gave up on me today.

 

while I value standards opinion on what should be done. Surely someone on the forum has fixed this sort of thing themselves with a bit of cobblers ingenuity.

 

I know from the manual it states I require a 1/2 hp motor with 1400 rpm. The guy i bought it off said it requires a three inch pulley he also gave some sort of bracket which held the motor apprently.

 

hav a look at the pic

 

opinions, ideas and if you hav pic of what you hav done great!

 

klazy

[Guest Klazykobbler]

another pic

[Gray]

First off this is what i would do. Get a motor http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Electric-Motor-Si ... 7C294%3A50 then figure out how to mount it making sure there are slots in motor or bracket to allow for belt adjustment. Make sure you mount it the right way round you don't want the stitcher to run backwards unless it is a motor that will run in each direction as above. once you have the motor check the diameter of the shaft and find a pulley that matches the one on the stitcher, should'nt be difficult. Then measure the run of the belt find a belt there are thousands of different sizes availiable, and away you go.

http://www.brammer.co.uk/uk_brammer_bel ... lleys.aspx.

[petercoulson]

if you want to do it fairly cheaply then try machine mart who sell pulleys to fit their motors, direction of rotation is changeable inside the motor. as for pulley type using a flat belt isnt the best or easiest way but you could try fitting a v pulley and then using a product called redthane ( http://www.poly-products.co.uk/beltext.htm ) which is a rubber similar to an emergency fan belt for a car - this will grip enough.

[keithm]

There could be a number of problems along the way to running this stitcher electrically.

 

Potential problems maybe as follows:

 

Sourcing correct or suitable motor

Gearing/Speed issues (if fitting a newer motor)

Switchgear (is it up to date)

Enclosing the drive belts/pulleys

When was the last time it run with a motor? There could be issues when powered

Will it conform with Health & Safety

Clutch/Drive issues(Why was the motor removed in the first place?)

 

Please call me if you wish to discuss your optionms further.

 

Good luck

 

Keith

[keithm]

You have a PM Klazy

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You have a PM Klazy

Too late now Keith, you've scared him off with ya £4.5K quote

[keithm]

But there maybe a different option that I can tempt him with Tel ?

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From the image it looks like a Goodyear No6, I had one many moons ago

[keithm]

From the image, it also looks like it could be an ex 'factory' machine run via a flat belt from an overhead drive shaft

[Lee]

Easy Pissie & an ideal machine to get you going until you might require a "factory" alternative.

 

I did a similar thing to a blake machine I have with relative ease.

 

I removed the flat belt pulley & replaced it with a V rib pulley & then used a V rib pulley & belt on the motor. I mounted the motor straight on the back of the machine, this involved drilling & tapping the threads. All the parts I needed I was able to buy from a local engineers supply store nearby.

I used a re-claimed motor switch from an old milling machine & Bobs you uncle.

 

With this machine you are lucky because it has a clutch system for regulating & running the machine, this means the spec of the motor is less critical because any over power can be filtered in using the clutch. I had an old motor from a finisher & used this, I haven't a clue what the spec is but it works!

 

If health & safety is a consideration then using some of that cobblers ingenuity you mentioned to box the pulleys in, like I did with this project for my kids, (I didn't want them putting there fingers in this thing!) isn't so hard!

 

Lee

[Guest Klazykobbler]

Wow !

 

cheers all

 

think me and me mechanic mate will be able to sus this one out.

 

All hail to forum !

 

any more pictures anyone ?

 

keep the ideas coming

 

Klazy

[petercoulson]

any more pictures anyone ?

 

keep the ideas coming

 

Klazy

 

 

[Lee]

Peter

 

Lee

[Guest Klazykobbler]

Straight swap peter?

 

Nice man spoke to him yesterday

 

I like lees set up might go for something like that.

[Guest Klazykobbler]

Hi all

 

thanks for all the help and suggestions.

 

not really finished yet and hoping H & S never turn up!

 

got it all together last weekend but havnt had a pair of leathers in this week to stitch .

[petercoulson]

neat but rather than worry about an hse visit why not build a simple box over it that you can then use as a shelf for storage?

[ironplanet uk900]

I would recommend a re-furb... might sound a bit expensive but well worth it, I would say though, If I had another one refurbed, I would ask for a few modifications to how they do em nowadays. But having said that, I am pleased with my machine, apart from a few irritating bits....