ironplanet uk900 Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 nice video clip. how often do you lubricate the rollers in the big cams and what do you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corlas Posted April 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Thanks Lee! You are the big one! Health! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlsdoncobbler Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 nice one Lee hope you have a licence for that radio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corlas Posted April 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 What big my ignorance that I thougt it sewing like handmade, from up to down and when I've seen the video in the first I thougt was not a outsole Health and thanks another Lee Edit: In this machine, ¿you don't see the sewing for the other side? while are stitching. I want to say that what I thought was you see the intro of the neel for the other side, for the welt. How you are sure the sewing is good looking for the seen side? I hope you understand me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 how often do you lubricate the rollers in the big cams and what do you use? I oil them pretty much every week, using a 5W 30 oil, from an oil can. How you are sure the sewing is good looking for the seen side? Experience & a well set up machine. With any piece of stitching, unless using a mirror you can only see on side of your stitching. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corlas Posted April 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Experience & a well set up machine. That's the best advise Lee. With any piece of stitching, unless using a mirror you can only see on side of your stitching. This is other good advise But in my ignorance, ¿can this machine to sew (stitch) with the shoe in the opposite position? I'm thinking in give the importance to the welt sew, not to the sole. (Ever you can put a sole guard or make an ¿channel lip? Sorry, I don't know exactly the word). Health and thanks Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 No because the upper would foul with the shuttle & Bobbin housing. the shoe has to be in the upside down position. I have stitched some very thick leather strapping once, but it made me sweat a bit! Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corlas Posted April 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Thanks Lee for spend your time in my questions, at last I've understand all my doubts. Greetings from Corlas and... Health to this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 No Problem Corlas, quite enjoyed doing it & as a direct result of this exercise a problem with my machine that has been on-going has "hopefully" (all will be revealed in a day or so) been resolved following a chance phone call with Keith from Standard engineering yesterday backed up with some very prompt service in the way of a visit today! so I'm glade you asked! Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Corlas, for you i have spent my Friday evening making a PowerPoint of how a goodyear makes a stitch. you can view/download it at www.siserve.co.uk/outsoling.ppt or in the downloads section technical part. Hope you enjoy and understand p.s. anyone else may like to look as well, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 Peter thats has to be the post of the year, nice one. I think this topic explains it awl! Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 very good peter i'm sure that cip aong with lee's will help those who haven't used or seen an outsole in operation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corlas Posted April 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 My emotions don't left me say words. Thanks Peter, it's an excelent work. I can't say nothing more than thanks thanks and thanks. Health and long life to this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 Class Peter, pure class. One thing folks, don't be fooled by the nice looking dog at the end, The B**tard bit me when Peter was installing my new finisher Finisher is an absolute beauty Peter, very pleased & I love the Superman Logo's you engraved on the switch plates Great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 thanks, oh by the way she also bit another customer so i moved her then he walked on her again and got bitten for a second time!! now you now why i leave her guarding the van.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 Lucky Planet.....I came out the house on thursday morning to find next doors dog having a S**t on our drive, As I approached to shhh it away it Bit me the little F**ker. My missus told the woman next door about it....She only went and had the poor bugger put down Wish we hadn't said owt.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Corlas, there is a machine that stitches with the welt on the top and the shoe upright. It is called a Frobana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 No Hugh Noooo. aint trying to explain that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corlas Posted April 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Corlas, there is a machine that stitches with the welt on the top and the shoe upright. It is called a Frobana. No Hugh Noooo. aint trying to explain that one. Why? Where? Frobana? Come on!! Health! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 frobana (aka rafflenbaul) slow, inaccurate, makes own groove. Good when working well. needles approx £6 each ( 8 euros ) see http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Frobana-Outsole-S ... dZViewItem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corlas Posted April 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Beautiful machine! Thanks Lee, Hugh and Peter, I'm learning a lot about something I had no idea before. Health! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 I seem to recognise that particular machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 its the hand (manual) version, looking at the seller name i think it must be charlie foggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the dutch cobbler Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 frobana (aka rafflenbaul) slow, inaccurate, makes own groove. Good when working well. A Frobana is another machine as the Rafflenbeul! They both stiching the shoe in the same position but the Rafflenbeul is much better! You can't compare it with a Frobana! The Rafflenbeul uses a hard "needle" to first make a hole. Just like the machine Lee uses! (When I have seen it right!) It's a shame they doesn't make this machine anymore! I think they are out of production for over 40 years! But they are still working! \:D/ When you look around maybe you can find one! I will try to make some pictures today, so you can see it! Cheers, John The Dutch Cobbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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