hibsjo(SCO) Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Iknow a couple of yous do this but does anybody else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Onest Andy Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Yes i have the Bianchi machine bought from Davenport Burgess. Excellent machine can copy just about anything except cryptos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenB Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 I've just bought the Bianchi 883 machine from Davenports too. Should be a good investment! StevenB www.cromertrophies.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 we've not yet invested in it yet, we can't decide whether it will be worth it long term with the rapid advancement of technology. also the cost of the blanks is a factor too, we don't know what's worth keeping and what's not and what the best machine would be to start up with. can the cryptos actually be copied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Onest Andy Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Currently crypto keys arew best left to the dealers. I belive it is possible to go out and buy the software which enables you to link into the car's diagnostic system and set up the keys.. However as I understand it each manufacturer has their own set of software which costs something in the region of £600- £700 a go. The Bianchi machine can copy any other transponder key as far as i'm aware ithout the need for extra upgrades or software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted November 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Diagnostic machine will cost approx £2k Software cost me a further £6k Initial stock outlay another £1k We charge £55+vat for cheapest crypto chip key even ones done on rw3.(rw3 plus stock would cost around £1K) Remotes can be anything upto £200, This week alone and we are only on Tuesday, Rover remote and callout £75, Nissan Almera spare key £55, Ford Focus £55 all of these plus vat, All models above the garage would charge about the same plus labour and you would have to book it in. hahaha we do it on the spot! This can be a very lucrative market and you are right when you say modern day advances on software will make it more affordable (in the future) but there is a market out there just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blank Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 i have diagnostic machine from kickley valtone, cost me 3k and have weeks when i make same,. only thing to advise is there is a new machine/diagnostic box called mp3 (i think) runs on tokens which cost about 7-50 each time you use it, Great investment and can make you lots of money. i charge £50 for rover and can do 10 a week on normal weeks and ford i too use bianchi - i think the moral is - invest in keys as its a quick profit, compared to any shoe repair machinery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Now the point from a smaller business angle! I would say you chaps who have these machines are probably either dedicated lock smiths or have good sized businesses with several employees. However what is the best way of involving this technology if you are a one man-er like me! My advice would be this. When I started my shop back in 1989 you only did Cylinder or Mortice keys and that was it, then came along the Vauxhall Lazer, then Tubular, then Tibbe, then Transponder etc. The answer is to get each new technology as it arrives then you don’t notice the investment. However its easy for SMALL businesses to get carried away, have a look at your type of business “shop front†Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 If you are using a tex-coder or equivalent as I under stand it the Silca heads are currently the only ones which will retain the code if the battery is replaced, which gives you piece of mind when selling them. Other blanks will need re-programming if and when the battery fails (which may cause us problems in around 3-4 years from now) Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted January 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 You are right Lee you cant do it all by yourself. You need someone to go to vehicles and programme keys/remotes. You cant be in two places at once someone has to man the shop. Today weve been to 3 vehicles but one was a round trip of 100 miles lose a lot in shop if you were gone that long! The answer to £55 pounds being alot of money is that its not if its the only key they have, recently weve had customers with the same moan but when they ve came back weeks later to say they ve lost the key thats when they see how much it really costs, ouch! mega bucks. Youve got to use scare tactics(within reason) tell people scary stories of lockouts and how much it will cost. Make them realise just whats involved only then will these machines pay for them selves (and make you money) Like your repairs people are guided by what you tell them so why should it be different for keys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 I have already tried a couple of "scare storys" but since as yet the addition of the tex coder has been fruitless I will have to modify my selling technique untill I find the one that "works" for me! Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 it always makes me laugh when people pay £12,000 and then moan at the cost of a replacement key. rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted January 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 If people want I will fax/post some merchandising we use to give you some ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blank Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 when you get involved in something (anything) new and as specialised as this - all you have to remember is advertise it in a position in a paper that relates to the product your trying to sell!! no-body knows what you can or cannot do unless you let them know. even if they call to your shops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted January 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 If you want to forward customers to me within that distance we can do the job, if not inside that distance, we can hook them up with other people in the industry up and down the uk. no problem. Trade Discount would depend on job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blank Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 OR REFER TO ME - Edited by administrator Could all members please refer to http://www.shoerepairer.info/bb/viewtopic.php?t=65 Rule C. Please do not use ALL CAPS when requesting support. This goes for topic titles and message bodies. If noticed a quick warning will be sent out. Typing in ALL CAPS does not mean faster support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted January 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Its a b*gger the caps.Share the same comp for engraver, our engraver always seems to be on caps then you get half way through a post and realise its all in caps oh b*gger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 It looks like you may have a service that could benefit other members here I'm based in the Midlands & use the AD100, A Key & Remote Diagnostic Programming tool from Advanced Diagnostics PM or Email me if I can help you out in this area Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted February 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Terry do you do Kia/Suzuki 4D/8D chipped keys? Are you busy with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 Hi Joe Got software for Kia but haven't used it yet, as for Suzuki I've done loads of them Tel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blank Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 hibsjo and terry why dont u both list all you vehicle types so everyone can see waht we all do? i will get my tester out and list a little later tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 ASTON MARTIN DAEWOO FORD CODED ACCESS MAZDA CAN CODED ALFA FIAT LANCIA FORD (USA) FORD (USA) CAN BUS FORD (EUROPE) FORD (AUSTRALIA) LINCOLN MERCURY OPEL VAUXHALL GENERAL MOTORS GM CAN HONDA ACURA HYUNDAI JAGUAR KIA LDV MITSUBISHI NISSAN PROTON PEUGEOT CITROEN RENAULT ROVER LAND ROVER SUBARU SUZUKI TOYOTA LEXUS VW AUDI SEAT SKODA VW PIN READ AUDI PIN READ SEAT PIN READ SKODA PIN READ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Terry s got em all I dont do suzuki or kia isnt a market for me. U martin what do u do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blank Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 hi jo, i do almost as much as terry - not toyota, not mazda, fiat nor honda, mitsibushi, renoult, - we all read and write most of them. but tel has most of it - if i need one of them tel pops over for me. he gets money i keep a service for my customers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyfast Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 i also have a AD100, got most of the software, in the glasgow area if anyone need some info or help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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