RW4 AND FASTCOPY USERS-IMPORTANT UPDATE

[mario11012]

ALL rw4 and fast copy users theres good new and bad news for us.good news is eventually update come out for those machines for philips crypto 46 chip,bad news-we gonna have to buy attachment simmilar to tex code to clone this chip(it simmilar to decryptor bianchi883) and obviously new type of electronic heads(calls ehp key)procedure is little bit more complicated then texas,cause you have to decode half of the key programme from customer key and another half from customer vehicle with little attachment ,and then eventually clone it to head.will try to get price tomorrow from sks or aldridgebut i dont think they got it already( hopefully will be cheaper then decryptor which is about £900)

[grahamparker]

Snooper device is all that is required to sniff some info from the vehicle.The pdf detailing this is on silca's website.The snooper device

will be between 200-300 and it will use standard eh2 heads so a lot cheaper than any other option.No release date but

ive got one on order already so should recieve one of the first batch.Will post message when recieved.

 

Any news on how long untill the zed bull and key crypt pro can do these ?

 

I think the bigger step forward will come from whoever can crack the cloning of t6 megamos chips first.

[D-Power]

I'm not involved on retail price, but I think the SNOOP device will be cheaper of that reported by grahamparker.

As said before the SNOOP is the device needed to retrieve the data from the vehicle, but to copy is ID46 keys is also necessary the P-BOX device that is involved to the calculation process of the cryptographics data of transponder.

For that it concern electronic keys, is necessary to use new EHP keys (EH2 are for Texas, and aren't complatible with Philips).

The price of EHP keys (Maybe that should be discussed on trade section) will be the same or similar to EH2.

 

for any techical info about ID46 copy solution, I will be happy to answer your questions.

[lockdecoders]

Snooper device is all that is required to sniff some info from the vehicle.The pdf detailing this is on silca's website.The snooper device

will be between 200-300 and it will use standard eh2 heads so a lot cheaper than any other option.No release date but

ive got one on order already so should recieve one of the first batch.Will post message when recieved.

 

Any news on how long untill the zed bull and key crypt pro can do these ?

 

I think the bigger step forward will come from whoever can crack the cloning of t6 megamos chips first.

 

Hi. Our Key-Crypt Pro should be ready to clone these 46 transponders in about 2 to 3 weeks and cloning 48(T6) transponders before the end of the year.

 

Pete

[Craig Gardner]

Snooper device is all that is required to sniff some info from the vehicle.The pdf detailing this is on silca's website.The snooper device

will be between 200-300 and it will use standard eh2 heads so a lot cheaper than any other option.No release date but

ive got one on order already so should recieve one of the first batch.Will post message when recieved.

 

Any news on how long untill the zed bull and key crypt pro can do these ?

 

I think the bigger step forward will come from whoever can crack the cloning of t6 megamos chips first.

 

Hi. Our Key-Crypt Pro should be ready to clone these 46 transponders in about 2 to 3 weeks and cloning 48(T6) transponders before the end of the year.

 

Pete

 

 

Thats what kim at ad told me a few weeks ago but wil id46 be able to be cloned onto non battery heads like tpx2. and any idea of price on the id46 update.

 

Craig

[GARYUnwin]

Ehp key heads looks like they will battery powered same as ehs2

[lockdecoders]

We are not sure yet.

[D-Power]

I can confirm that EHP heads are battery powered as EH2.

 

@Pete

 

can I ask you what keys and devices will be used by Key-Krypt pro machine to copy Id46 keys?

You will use keys and devices developed by you or you will use TK60 and Decryptor?

[Keydoctor]

can I ask you what keys and devices will be used by Key-Krypt pro machine to copy Id46 keys?

You will use keys and devices developed by you or you will use TK60 and Decryptor?

 

I too would like to know this, but do you actually know Pete yourself??? Seems very vague information? I'd imagine though the software will be to work on using EHP Heads or TK60 in the same manor as it does to do TPX2 (although that still hasnt been developed as stand alone on key-crypt despite months of promise).

 

But that said, ID46 clone doesnt excite me at all. By the time you pay for the modules / updates / add-ons to do it, its more complicated and more expensive than having the equipment to programme a 'Proper' transponder key. The whole idea of cloning is to be able to do it without leaving the warmth of the shop, but the new method is more involved than standard programming, just doesnt make sense to me, and if you do your maths, it doesnt sound very cost effective either But thats only my opinion \:D/

[Gray]

can I ask you what keys and devices will be used by Key-Krypt pro machine to copy Id46 keys?

You will use keys and devices developed by you or you will use TK60 and Decryptor?

 

I too would like to know this, but do you actually know Pete yourself??? Seems very vague information? I'd imagine though the software will be to work on using EHP Heads or TK60 in the same manor as it does to do TPX2 (although that still hasnt been developed as stand alone on key-crypt despite months of promise).

 

But that said, ID46 clone doesnt excite me at all. By the time you pay for the modules / updates / add-ons to do it, its more complicated and more expensive than having the equipment to programme a 'Proper' transponder key. The whole idea of cloning is to be able to do it without leaving the warmth of the shop, but the new method is more involved than standard programming, just doesnt make sense to me, and if you do your maths, it doesnt sound very cost effective either But thats only my opinion \:D/

 

My opinion too answers on a postcard and quick please

[D-Power]

 

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But that said, ID46 clone doesnt excite me at all. By the time you pay for the modules / updates / add-ons to do it, its more complicated and more expensive than having the equipment to programme a 'Proper' transponder key. The whole idea of cloning is to be able to do it without leaving the warmth of the shop, but the new method is more involved than standard programming, just doesnt make sense to me, and if you do your maths, it doesnt sound very cost effective either But thats only my opinion \:D/

 

I agree with you, this method is a bit complicated than the other, but to copy mutual authentication transponders there is no other ways, is necessary to collect data from the vehicle to clone the key (and this will be necessary also for T6 ID48 transponders), but in any case ID46 clone like all the other clones has the following advantages:

 

• Silca or Bianchi Keys will be cheaper than original keys
  
• You can have the keys in stock
  
• No Pincode is necessary to have a new key (sometime pincode is hard to find, and in many cases you have to pay to have it, and in most cases you have to wait some hours or days to have it).
  
• You can copy all (or at least a big percentage) ID46 keys (some the OBD programming tools need an update to make new models, and you have to pay to have it)(and some time you need some protections dongles to access the ECU.)
  
• With the clone is impossible to damage the ECU of the vehicle (no programmation or desoldering of chips is necessary).