In A Time Warp!

[ironplanet uk900]

Just read this thread again. I thought it was fantastic and well worth the read.

[keithm]

I concur

[Dean]

I have also just sat and re-read this topic and this comment really stood out for me:

 

Nailing on competition shoes for those who want to go down this route, is for decorative purposes and is known generally as Artistic Interpretation by some of those who are or have been regular at these events.

 

Sorry to go over old ground but I was led to believe that the competition was called "SHOE REPAIRER OF THE YEAR,"

 

I can't believe you can gain points for nailing a leather half sole

 

Don't think i'll ever bother entering!

[keithm]

I think Hugh may have meant nailing of the top piece

[Hugh-Candoit (ENG)]

I have also just sat and re-read this topic and this comment really stood out for me:

 

Nailing on competition shoes for those who want to go down this route, is for decorative purposes and is known generally as Artistic Interpretation by some of those who are or have been regular at these events.

 

Sorry to go over old ground but I was led to believe that the competition was called "SHOE REPAIRER OF THE YEAR,"

 

I can't believe you can gain points for nailing a leather half sole

 

Don't think i'll ever bother entering!

 

"Decorative purposes" Dean, means decoration as in "design". Look at the random images of the forum on the left column and view the Artistic work all done with nails then coloured in with stains and varnishes. No one was refering to Nailed Waists on Half soles and to win competitions doing this type of work really means that you are the Shoe Repairer of the Year.

All this has to be on top of the best technical work, not just the nailing.

Not sure if artistic interpretation is included in the marking nowadays Dean as most folk in your age group would not know where to start. (take note that I said "most").

Those who used to do this type of work would take many weeks just doing the design and colouring as in many cases the left shoe would be a mirror image of the right shoe and you have to be spot on position with every single nail, just try to do it with 1 single line and see how difficult it is not to get 1 nail go slightly off the line. I spent many years doing competitions where decorative rivetting was the norm but there were 2 guys who just could not be beaten, one was named Harry Stone but the other name escapes me.(it was during the 50s and early 60s and now an almost lost art).

[Ray T.]

Hi Guys

Getting back to the nailing of the waist topic.As you know I hate it but it did have its time and that was 40 years ago.A few reasons then were because the tannage of the leather was stiff as a board and very very hard to flex let alone bend.The other reason was the glues at the time.It was either rubber or press cement and neither would work without nails or stitching.Just because it was right back then has nothing to do with todays standards and maybe in the next 30 years they will say that about how we repair them today!

Ray no nail waist Torcaso

[kobblers]

i stopped nailing my waists shortly after this topic started and i'm pleased to say that i've had no returns caused by the waist popping up

 

amazing how you can be doing something wrong for so long until i read this topic i assumed everybody nailed the waists as a lot of the shoe repairers i'd ever worked with at automagic and timpson did this.

 

thanks once again to the forum as my work now looks a whole lot neater

 

rick.

[ironplanet uk900]

=D> =D> well said that man =D> =D>

[Auto Key Wizard]

i stopped nailing my waists shortly after this topic started and i'm pleased to say that i've had no returns caused by the waist popping up

Ditto, I've now got all these tingles which are surplus to requirement

[Dean]

i stopped nailing my waists shortly after this topic started and i'm pleased to say that i've had no returns caused by the waist popping up

Ditto, I've now got all these tingles which are surplus to requirement

 

I think this accentuates what the forums all about =D>

 

There are many 'experienced' repairers (especially round by us) who pick up bad habits and become set in their ways so it's good to see two repairers who've been in the trade a long time still willing to take on board advice from others.