Cyclopse Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Nobodys got the job because nobodys offered to do what he wants. Read his original post, The guy likes steel so give him steel. The fact that you dont like it dosn't matter, give him what he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 We did offer him what he wants, but we explained that there are far better materials available that last longer than steel horse shoe plates. Wear was his main concern if you read back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Nobodys got the job because nobodys offered to do what he wants. I gave him a quotation on the 19th December, which included a price with or without horse shoe plates & steel toe plates, via a PM Cyclopse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cad Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 All, I'm starting feel a little pressured ! I'm awaiting a reply from a gentelman called Mr Harris at Timpsons but don’t hold much hope but to be fair to all I'm going to give him a little more time to reply. cad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I thought we gave Cad an excellent welcome and some good advice, its up to him if he has them repaired....None of us are desparate for the work Cyclopse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 All, I'm starting feel a little pressured ! cad Why Nobody here needs the work Cad, Its just nice to know what you've opted for after we ytook the time to answer your query. No more no less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 None of us are desparate for the work Nope, me neither been running pretty much flat out for the last 18 years the hassle off spending time packing up & getting a pair of shoes to the Post office on my day off isn't a profitable one, its done for trade relations! we are all passionate about the trade here, so do like to now the outcome of some of the ramblings that go on. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I feel sure the the gentleman will have learned much from his encounter with a load of cobblers You cant get the advice that is offered here in one shop as everyone has there own theories, take a bit off one and a bit off the other and go and hold the local cobbler to ransome with the newfound information, that's what i would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 send them to cyclopse, he will give you what you want! he has got some experience & an old last in his garage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfman Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 after looking at these shoes for a second time it looks to me that they are possably surgical shoes which could explain why he could not get hold of the lasts becouse they belong to the company that made the shoes for two reasons 1 all surgical shoes are supposed to be repaired on the last that they were made on 2 the company has to keep these lasts for 5 years in case of repeat orders after that they are recycled tehy look like extra depth shoes with a pearl cow lining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclopse Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Nice one Jay. Iv'e certainly banged a few on in my time, it was the new boys job, and yes I do have a couple of pairs in my garage. They will be in a biscuit tin along with a load of other junk not touched for the last 38 years. Yeh this could be the moment. I do agree with all the other posts that an all round steel heel would be out of place today. I believe the only people who seriously whant them today are the tug-of-war teams. I think a quarter plate steel tip is acceptable though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I believe the only people who seriously whant them today are the tug-of-war teams. I think a quarter plate steel tip is acceptable though. Yeah they're nice and slippy so they can lose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 This is resembling the "WOB" thread in October, of which had died after a week & amassed 57 replies. Carry on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 I do agree with all the other posts that an all round steel heel would be out of place today. I believe the only people who seriously whant them today are the tug-of-war teams. I keep in stock, horse shoe plates, hob nails & heavy toe plates & despite not having any military installations near by do plenty of military boots through out the year & this is my main market for metal work. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 send them to cyclopse, he will give you what you want! he has got some experience & an old last in his garage So have I Jay so dont knock us with Lasts in the garage that do a bit for freinds & relatives, at least we know how to use Brass Rivets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Going back through this thread and re-examining the shoe after Elfmans post I totally disagree with his theory, these shoes are made on the contenent very cheaply for Retailers wanting a Hand Made service, very similiar to the company offering 2 for the price of 1. Secondly the guy tells you that he had them from a shop. Thirdly I am positive that these shoes do not have a Welt as in the Goodyear type, the reason for this train of thought is that I think that the soles are blaked on as the groove is a tad too far in to be stitched on a goodyear machine. Fourthly You guys who have quoted, have quoted for re-welting, maybe it would be better for CAD to get the shoes examined by a local repairer to determine if the shoes are Goodyear Welted as otherwise your quotes may be far in exccess of the price for a norman through sole blaked on!!! Just my thoughts you understand after Inspector Clueso accompanied me to the scene of the crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 This is resembling the "WOB" thread in October, of which had died after a week & amassed 57 replies.Carry on What's wrong with that Tel200, at least it gets a debate going and causes a bit of interest even if it goes nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 This is resembling the "WOB" thread in October, of which had died after a week & amassed 57 replies.Carry on What's wrong with that Tel200, at least it gets a debate going and causes a bit of interest even if it goes nowhere. I agree Hugh, Thats what makes the forum interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfman Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 you may well be right about the welting not being goodyear hugh but i still think the maybe surgical shoes and i know some of these companys do put a leatherslip on by means of the autosoler then add a sole and stitch them to look like welted shoes as for him buying them from a shop he actually says he got them made for him by a company outside the uk which he cannot find anymoreand no mention of a shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 The norm is for UK shops to advertise a "hand made" service, not "bespoke", the shoes are then made in Egypt or India then shipped to the UK where the customer pays UK prices. The "autosoling" as you refer to it is in fact a wire staple, this was a very common method carried out by Bata in their factory in the Czech republic and started around the late 60s, or at least that was when I first came accross it when being shown around Bata HQ in Gravesend. You may remember them as the colour came off the shoes leaving them a horrid Orange colour, yuk!!!! The method is still in use today and has been adopted by several countries making cheap footwear by cutting out the Welting machine. A similiar technique was used in Europe (mainly Germany)using wooden pegs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 In my opinion JR contitech heels are the best wearing heels I have ever come across...far longer than steel and for the price they cost to buy they should be!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cad Posted January 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 All, I have .. finally.... made my decision and not wanting to offend anyone I'd prefer not to say to whom I gave the work. I had a number of offers and some fantastic advice and I'd just like to say thanks to those who took the time to pass on their quotes and also their knowledge. I also wanted to say that I've come across many forums on many different topics and this seems to be one of the best and liveliest I have come across ! A spade is certainly a spade here and it's very refreshing to see cad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 A spade is certainly a spade here and it's very refreshing to see cad ...unless it's a shovel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 All, I have .. finally.... made my decision and not wanting to offend anyone I'd prefer not to say to whom I gave the work. I had a number of offers and some fantastic advice and I'd just like to say thanks to those who took the time to pass on their quotes and also their knowledge. cad Whats the big secret, nobody will be offended, And can we see some pictures of the finished product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 All, I have .. finally.... made my decision and not wanting to offend anyone I'd prefer not to say to whom I gave the work. I had a number of offers and some fantastic advice and I'd just like to say thanks to those who took the time to pass on their quotes and also their knowledge. cad Whats the big secret, nobody will be offended, And can we see some pictures of the finished product. I suspect you went for the cheapest option so it would be nice to see what you got for your money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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