stevE1965 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Just had a customer bring a cylinder key back, it just 'spins' the lock around without opening, why would this happen, key copied from a UL1 onto a football stadium key, shortened to match. Why would this happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Original keys still works ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevE1965 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Yeah original works, copied key worked 'for a couple of days' customer says. I dont doubt what she is saying because she didnt ask for a refund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC77 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 I know this one. Your copied key is too short. It will be a euro cylinder and the tip of the key is not fully engaging the cam. DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevE1965 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Ok, that sounds rational, have cut another key so will see what happens, been cutting keys for thirty years and this has happened on maybe half a dozen occasions and it has been bugging me! Thanks for your time guys. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Ok, that sounds rational, have cut another key so will see what happens, been cutting keys for thirty years and this has happened on maybe half a dozen occasions and it has been bugging me! Thanks for your time guys. Steve. If you file the shoulder back about 2mm then recut it will work fine,make sure you don't take any material off the end and this will cure the problem. As previously posted common problem with upvc keys usually when copying a copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Graham, you're a font of knowledge mate =D> Rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
key cabin Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Had exactly the same on Saturday and again on a pictured key, it is very easy to cut it too short. What i do now is to leave around 2 mil on the end of the key. The problem with the pictured keys is that they are made of a softer steel and ware down on the end faster in the cylinder, and i concur with the sentiment that it is normaly on the euro profile cylinders that this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davostech Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Agreeing with DC77 that over filing the end of a key is an easy mistake to make when shortening keys, it's crucial to keep the copy key exactly as the original when shaping the angle of the nose to correctly engage the cam and ensure continuous operation of the lock. The problem with the pictured keys is that they are made of a softer steel and ware down on the end faster in the cylinder, and i concur with the sentiment that it is normaly on the euro profile cylinders that this happens. I would just like to take this opportunity to confirm that Davenport Novelty keys, including Disney and Stadium are manufactured from quality Brass and not steel, and are no softer than our standard production blank. Just for those who may be wondering. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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