New profile from Mul-T-Lock - MT5

[An326]

Good afternoon.

 

Such question.

Corporation MUL-T-LOCK (Israel) has exhausted new cross-section MT5.

With what have ripened questions:

1. Where to get key blanks?

2. On a key except a usual code from MUL-T-LOCK, there is a chase cut by the end milling cutter (on similitude as in WW/Audi). That the most bad width of a chase only 0,9 mm. And as I have fathomed hobs 1, 1.5, 2 mm are issued. Where to buy such hob?

3. Has read on one site that in given stock materials there is a chip on which the information from a chart (from a magnetic strip on a chart which goes with the centre hub is recorded). The truth it or not I do not know.

[Mark Davis]

The blanks are only availble from Mul-t-lock and are patent protected, the machine used to cut these keys is operated by a swipe card all the info for cutting that particular key is stored on the magnetic strip on the card.

 

I think thats what you were asking?

 

If you place an order for around £10k worth of locks they will give you the machine free. (bargin)

[ironplanet uk900]

its laughable really, all that technology into the key and barrel, but all held together by about 1.5mm of brittle brass between the threaded hole. Break that and your in....lol

[grahamparker]

Not if you use security escuthceons or pas24 Furniture

[ironplanet uk900]

I'm not an expert like yourself in this field ! But I recon I would open that lock an a few seconds.. escutcheons or not.

 

To me it isn't any more secure than a normal decent euro profile lock.

 

Interested to hear your thoughts though Graham.

[Mark Davis]

By the sounds of it, if it had security ectucheons fitted and was a break secure cylinder you'd be there all day and probably make a right mess

[grahamparker]

If the correct type of security escutcheons are used and bolted through this would stop the most common forms of attack.As a

locksmith (bench only nowadays) you look for the easiest way to get in,ie window open other door or think where other weaknesses

are.With the correct escutcheons drilling the cylinder would become difficult as would pulling the plug or snapping the cylinder.I have never tried bumping

a mul-t-lock cylinder but i would think it extremly difficult but not impossible so there aren't many other options left.I have one method that works but don't really want to put it in an open forum.

I would also be interested to know how you would go about opening this lock

[ironplanet uk900]

I would also be interested to know how you would go about opening this lock

 

 

with the key, is the best method..... LOL .....Or phone a locksmith !! I wonder how many "Locksmiths" on here would have the knowhow.......

 

[grahamparker]

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[ironplanet uk900]

As I said, I am not an expert, but was wondering... Are these locks manufactured to stop undesirables from getting duplicate keys, or are they really more secure, in terms of opening without a key. It doesn't look any more secure than a normal gege to me.

 

I.E, is the area inbetween the two barrels any different.

 

answers on a postcard to: planet uk900.

[ironplanet uk900]

[k4mrc]

with the key, is the best method..... LOL .....Or phone a locksmith !! I wonder how many "Locksmiths" on here would have the knowhow.......[quote

 

did any of you watch on the tv that program which showed a woman wait for a house owner to leave to go to work -

then go thru there recycling that was awaiting recycling, then with a statement bt i think - make an id card with a photo of themselves stuck into place also threw a bunch of keys thru letter box - who then proceeded to 'phone a locksmith' who asked for id - which they then produced, and then said they had left the keys inside she could see them on the floor - he opened the lock in about 2 minutes, by picking - it looked like a security type!

so quickest and best way is - phone a proper lockky - even with a high security key... who will get u in!

[grahamparker]

There are also locks out there that cannot be picked or bumped,ie the evva mcs which uses magnets but it still has

weaknesses that can be exploited(bumping,snapping or plug pulling)which is why security escutcheons are required.

 

The double glazed market now seems to be taking note and producing doors to the pas 24 standard which again will

stop most thieves and move them onto some other property in the street that isnt as secure.

 

There is also the fact that a thief doesnt care how much damage he creates so a crowbar,blowtorch and even garden spades

can all be used to gain entry.A locksmith will always try to gain entry (when keys are lost) with the minimal or no damage to the door or lock

mechanism and this is where knowledge and skill are required.

 

At the end of the day nothing has been produced that is totally secure and i doubt it ever will,there are some very clever

people out there on both sides of the law looking for weakness in any locking system.

 

Personally i would recommend the cisa astral s cylinder range due to its anti snap feature but thats what personal choice is all about.

[ironplanet uk900]

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[Guest Lock N Safe Buddy]

Some keys you aint meant to cut mate . Fitted with an armoured escutcheon, the cylinder is as good as it gets. Without PAS 24 handles or armoured escutcheon use a CISA ASTRAL S anti snap cylinder, and yes you can legally cut keys for these. BTW we can provide Cisa Astral keys from code, next day delivery £9.95 inc VAT and post.