TheCustomer Posted December 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Ok sorry, I am a bit slow tonight, Timber Lands... he he. Ok I will try and answer your question best I can but go easy on me: What are you going to give a go Harry??? Yes - but just on the damaged boots I showed you. I will only use in the woods at weekend's And what do T/L put on their boots? I have no idea What product did the T/L salesman try to sell you? I don't remember. Just some high street oik who probably did not know what he was selling. Why did you not purchase it? Because I had some clear dubbin I bought from the the shop who sells stuff to real farmers, and a 100ML tin only cost me 1.80 something. If they did not offer why did you not ask? I am a tough customer so I always figure there maybe some conflict of interest in buying all these extras in one place so I shop around for my products What makes you think that a load of old cobblers know better than T/L research chemists in the USA? This question requires another long rambling answer. In short, leather has many grades, right? as per the L&R threads.. So if I assume that the timberland leather is the best (which it is not) then I can't go wrong with the advice on this forum. Harry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 T/L is used not in text speak but to avoid using trademark names whereby that company could sue an individual or the forum for unsavoury comments about their products. In general the advice given by shoe retailers is to be taken with a pinch of salt as they are on comission for sales. But... there is an exception and that exception is on premises that are Brand agents for an international product. T/L qan only be sold through authorised outlets and if you buy them for elsewhere the likeklyhood of them being counterfeat is great. The salesfolk are drilled into recommending the correct product for the Footwear purchased. The T/L guarantee is linked to this product. If you have a problem with your boots and have been using a product that has not been recommended by the company and could be proven to be detrimental to their Product you will not get your boots replaced. It is imperitive that you use recommended products as advised by their retail outlets. What adice you get on here by myself or anyone else is erelavent even if that product recommended is superior to the makers advised product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCustomer Posted December 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 hmm, I would like to see T/L stand up in court and not honour their warranty based on the fact that you used someone elses products to protect the shoes. Microsoft tried that one with their brower and ended up getting themselves dragged through the US and European courts. The same thing happened when Tesco started selling levis and Levi were crying their eyes out as they felt that the customers were not getting the benefit of their boutiuque atmosphire... lol Thanks for the tip, but I won't be using timberland products on that basis. Harry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 All depends on the wording in their literature and the product you used on your boots, they could bring in the leading experts that could prove what you used was detrimental to the life of the boot. There are only a limited number of experts in this field, 2 that I know of that do the testing. These companies will have been used to test the manufacturers product for optimum performance. Remember this is not a general off the shelf sold in your local supermarket. Many products sold for your footwear can cause problems in a prolonged period of wear, some of those mentioned here have come into the equation in the past and some still do. One at least is the wrong type of product completely. What I cant understand is this.. You seem to be a screwed head on type of guy who buys what he thinks is a top rated boot for the purpose intended. £100-£150 is a lot of money to be laying out and not take the best care available. Yet after spending this amount you cringe at paying under a fiver for a protective barrier, prefering to purchase one as cheap as possible that may or may not be up to the job for that type of Tanned Leather. Where is the logic. Would you put anything other than the recomended grade of Engine Oil in a new performance car? Would you buy a Mont Blanc Pen and put a Bic refill in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCustomer Posted December 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 What I cant understand is this.. You seem to be a screwed head on type of guy who buys what he thinks is a top rated boot for the purpose intended. £100-£150 is a lot of money to be laying out and not take the best care available. Yet after spending this amount you cringe at paying under a fiver for a protective barrier, prefering to purchase one as cheap as possible that may or may not be up to the job for that type of Tanned Leather. Where is the logic. Would you put anything other than the recomended grade of Engine Oil in a new performance car? Would you buy a Mont Blanc Pen and put a Bic refill in it? No, this is not me if you were describing me. I often look for quality without paying top wack for it. Although, this does mean I sometimes buy well known brands because, over time I have discovered they are the best for me. The way I took care of my shoes even before I came on this forum is far better than most. I often put a thin layer of polish on my shoes when I come in of an evening, if they are dry. Yes I agree, most people spend loads lots of money on shoes and dont take care of them. Every girlfriend I ever had runs their shoes into the ground, that's the heel, let alone polishing them! >Would you put anything other than the recomended grade of Engine Oil in a new performance car Yes if I had knowledge otherwise. Although the oil would be high grade, just not what the cars, 'tommy tucker' salesman said was the correct for the car. Many well known companies have their printer toner's refilled against the advice of the manufacture, the cat was out the bag on this one ages ago. I also saw something somewhere about some 'budget' shoes being made on the production like alongside the branded models. So what ever way you look at it you have to take every case on its own merrit when you go shopping for something. Harry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 I think along those same lines but many Joe Publics of this world are not capable of thinking in a lateral way and will but branded goods just for the name (especially Teenagers)then just could not give a toss as to the upkeep of the said articles. Anyway what are you doing in the Woods to get your boots scraped so badly ( I do hope this activity is not nocturnal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Timberland Product Care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCustomer Posted December 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 cheers tel, we sell that too. i'm gonna create a rip in a piece of leatherthis week and try and seal it, i'm interested to see how it will hold up to repeated flexing and whether it can be dyed over. rick. Rick, did you have a go at this. I wonder if it buff's up well after applying polish? Harry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblers Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 i haven't had time to even consider it looks like ti's going to be well into the new year before i find time to experiment properly. rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCustomer Posted December 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 i haven't had time to even consider it looks like ti's going to be well into the new year before i find time to experiment properly. rick. OK. I would be interested to know because, I have one now nice and soft pair of shoes from before I fully understood to to care for them and I think I waited about 6 weeks before I polished them. They did not crack then but are showing early bad signs along the bit of the foot where the toe bends. I wonder if the method is that good to almost act as a filler (say similar to surface cracks on bathroom wall) but maybe that would be pushing it Harry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCustomer Posted January 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 New uppers incident: ================== Over the holidays I scuffed some all leather M&S shoes I have just for knocking about in, however they are almost new. it seems to be a clean cut of leather (so is this not technically a scuff then) a bit like when you cut your finger with a sharp knife but it does not bleed, like a little flap a few mm along, but only microns deep. In situations like this do you just remove the tiny sliver of leather and somehow buff up the surface undernith or would you glue down the flap. If its the latter then I guess I could do it myself? Harry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k4mrc Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 i would say the 'latter' do not use superglue!! then a little shoe cream buff to shine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 do not use superglue!! Why not Martin, you're using it all the time in you're shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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