Food for thought - Machine Fire

[keithm]

Put simply, the idea of the filter bag is to let the air out through the mesh and keep the dust in.

 

Over time, the bag builds up a layer of 'crust' as we call it on the inside of it. In order for your extraction system to work effeciently, the bag needs to 'breath' Any restriction to this will mean a reduction in suction.

 

Therefore, make sure you shake your bag at least 3/4 times a day and change the bag regularly!!

 

Hope that helps Hugh be do

[kobblers]

how much are replacement bags anyway whilst we're on the subject?

 

rick.

[Hugh-Candoit (ENG)]

As this is a Health & Safety issue, why are Automatic shakers not fitted to all new machines. (dont mention cost as it's H&S)

[petercoulson]

automatic shakers were/are available, HARDO have them as standard on one filtration system, but for bags systems they are about as much use as a chocolate tea pot. they cannot shake vigorously enough and have been tried and dumpted before.

 

i always recommend that you use the shaker cable to drop large clogged up sections of dust but you supplement that by physically shaking or banging the bags with a stick, this will clear the finer particles from inside the legs.

[keithm]

The Flexam'City' range of machines have automatic, programmable, bag shaking.

 

As Peter says, a vigirous shake of the bag on most other machines will suffice.

[kobblers]

no-one answered my question.

[Hugh-Candoit (ENG)]

no-one answered my question.

 

That may be because you asked a general question and did not quote a machine make or model number. Even so, I doubt if those involved will publish their prices on an open forum.

 

Once knew of a guy who taped an old pillow case on when his bag disintegrated and swore it was just as good.

[kobblers]

i had it in my head that we were discussing a whitfield 700

[windycity]

hi ascap

hows the new shop

hey you have to remeber that we can't multi tasking with posts you know go from one subject to another then back to the first as we are on the whole men but not sure that includes hugh....

[Hugh-Candoit (ENG)]

i had it in my head that we were discussing a whitfield 700

No, the topic was Machine Fire, been sniffing Trico again

[kobblers]

wasn't the machine fire in a 700 then?

[Guest Iain Cheall]

It was mate but they won't put a price up for a bag cos they sell them to everyone at different prices depending on how good a customer you are or might be in the furture. It's that rude word DISCOUNT again

 

As I ain't a cobbler but I have looked at several different machines, they seem to have a pan underneath the work area to catch all the debris which can be then lifted up to allow the suction to remove the debris into the bag. It seems to me that a possible way of preventing bagfires would be to have the pan closed while you work and when you finish the little scouring session you have a quick to check it ain't smouldering and then open the pan to suck it all away. I might be missing something here but then I ain't trained on a finisher and have only used one a few times and certainly not a frequently as you guys do.

[keithm]

Rick, you have a PM

 

Keith

[petercoulson]

just to let you know, we charge, depending on the type of customer you are of course iain, 135.76 +VAT for a 700 dust bag although the prices are a bit fluid depending on the supplier we use.

[petercoulson]

and before you ask, that is not a fitted price just supplied and p+p is on top,

approx 10.00

[Hugh-Candoit (ENG)]

just to let you know, we charge, depending on the type of customer you are of course iain, 135.76 +VAT for a 700 dust bag although the prices are a bit fluid depending on the supplier we use.

 

Christ, I only paid that for my finisher mind you it was in 1939

[petercoulson]

is that the one they made into a spitfire?

 

ps please only call me christ at the weekends

[Hugh-Candoit (ENG)]

Nah, it did not have sheet metal on it, only the trimming and scouring bins.

Just a load of Iron bars with A frames at the ends and middle so you could sweep right through it and what was more to the point, you could get immediate access to a burning bag, most of us used to let em burn just to get warm as we could not afford heating and the parafin stove was only lit to warm our Sheeps Brain broth on at lunchtime.