Lee Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Something I have not entered into yet, so can any one here supply me with one of these? I believe these can be programmed on the car, if so how? Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Hi Lee Try this http://www.remotes4cars.co.uk/ looks like what your showing I believe you can prog.some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted March 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 I have found on nwk services web site the fobs, loads cheaper than your link! but now I know I can get them. can anyone tell me how to program them, before I order one only to discover I can't do that bit! Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Refer to previous link. that site tells you what fobs can/cant be programmed. Click on make of car and it will tell you whether its mannual or needs diagnostics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted March 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Yep, I appreciate that and sure it says follow sell programming sequence but gives no details..... what do I do to program it? point it at the car? do I need two fobs like some transponders? do I press a button on the alarm control box? switch on the rear wash wipe HOW do I program them!!!!!!!!! I know a bit of history to the car and I know fobs have been a problem in the past, which is why I am reluctant to order one until I know how to get the car to recognize the new one. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 I understand the fob can be programmed in the following way: (It may take several attempts and the timing must be correct for it to work) 1)Starting conditions: ignition off, doors unlocked, bonnet switch depressed. 2)Steps 3 to 9 MUST be carried out within 8 seconds. 3)Switch ignition ON. 4)Switch ignition OFF. 5)Lock doors. 6)Unlock doors. 7)Release bonnet switch. 8)Switch ignition ON. 9)Switch ignition OFF. If alarm is correctly accessed, the horn will sound and LED will light. It is now possible to programme two handsets of correct frequency to vehicle alarm ECU. This must be carried out within two minutes. 10)Press and hold down button on first handset until dash LED flashes. 11)Repeat instruction for second handset. 12)The LED will extinguish if both handsets have been initialised correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted March 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 I found these instructions also but here is my problem which is where someone who has actually done it may be able to help! The car has had its alarm unarmed, although the button still arms the immobiliser and the LED still flashes. Stages 5/6 can this be done using the immobiliser button I currently have. Stages 7 what is a bonnet switch ? Is this a button on the alarm under the bonnet? If alarm is correctly accessed, the horn will sound and LED will light. It is now possible to programme two handsets of correct frequency to vehicle alarm ECU. Does this mean I have to re-programme the original as well as the new one to achieve 2 working buttons? As you can see with the central locking and alarm de-activated I may be up against it with this one!!!!! Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Can of worms spring to mind. Bonnet switch is lever to open bonnet. What do you think Terry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted March 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 I think the bonnet switch probably isn't the bonnet release, since this is a lever and a cable direct to the catch. This car is actually a metro GTi so isn't to sophisticated I could re-enable the alarm to do the programming but since I don't know why it was disabled in the first place this probably wouldn't help with the fob. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 The early Rovers follow the same manual procedure as Land Rover The bonnet switch is just that, (a electrical contact switch) & located under the bonnet on the front cross member, I think LAND ROVER Land Rover 1996 (single Button oval shape) 1. Ensure ignition is OFF, dors unlocked, bonnet switch closed. 2. Ensure procedure from 3 to 9 is completed within 8 seconds. 3. Switch Ignition ON 4. Switch Ignition OFF 5. Lock Doors and Unlock Doors 6. Release Bonnet Switch 7. Switch Ignition ON 8. Switch Ignition OFF IIf alarm is set, horn will sound and LED with light. Now programming of plips can be completed. 10. Press and hold down button on Plip until LED flashes. 11. Repeat for additional plips. 12. The Dash LED will extinguish if both plips have been programmed successfully. HTH Tel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted March 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 I have also posted a message on Metropower! which has come up with another far reaching solution! I have ordered a fob today so I will let you know! Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Onest Andy Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Interesting subject this. I have just bought myself a Vauxhall Omega. It's only got one alarm fob and I was considering looking into getting another. Anyone know anything about the Vauxhall system and the possibilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Is the Omega a diesel and if so is it the BMW engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Is the Omega a diesel and if so is it the BMW engine? Doesn't matter what fuel it runs, All Vauxhall keys or remotes are programmed using diagnostic equipment GENERAL OPERATION INTRODUCTION The General Motors Immobiliser is used in conjunction with the vehicle engine management electronics to immobilise the vehicle. The first systems were fitted to Petrol vehicles and subsequently fitted to Diesel vehicles from 95½ Model Year. The immobiliser system is independent, and can be diagnosed separately . The system is also operated independently from the central locking system, and it’s main function is to inhibit starting. Immobiliser Control Unit The immobilisers function is to transmit the start signal to the engine management ECU after it has read the key fob code. If the code is recognised the immobiliser sends the signal and the ECU compares the code with what is programmed. If the signal is incorrect the engine which is allowed to start initially is then switched OFF. If there is a malfunction then the engine check light mounted in the instrument panel will flash. The system uses what is called an IMO (Immobiliser Signal Code) signal to talk to the electronic engine management system, or for Diesel vehicles the Fuel Cut-off Solenoid. The control unit can only be re-programmed if the necessary security code is entered, which is found on the customer vehicle information card (CAR PASS). Transponder (Mounted in key fob) The key fob contains a small electronic circuit (Transponder) which is powered when in close proximity to the control unit using cordless voltage power. Each transponder has a different code for security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyfast Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 the alarm must be set to program new fobs into the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Precise detailed information there but I was not refering to the fob, just enquired if it had a BMW engine and on the outcome of the answer was going to offer some advice on buying secondhand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Onest Andy Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Thanks for the info guys. My car is a 1997 2.5 litre v6 petrol CDX with remote locking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 So Lee how did you get on with this car? Where did you get the fob? And how much did you pay for it? and how much did you charge for programming? in anticipation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted April 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Well the story of the fob is this, the car is actually my own metro Gti which I am planning on doing a couple of track days in. It came with just one fob, and I was aware the previous owner had, had problems with it. I brought the fob from one of the suppliers who is a member here on the forum NW key services using their web site, and very easy that was, however I actually ordered the wrong one! No problem though 1 call & I returned the first one and received the new one by return.(cost £30) After my posting on “metro power†Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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