mrkeys Posted August 1, 2024 Report Share Posted August 1, 2024 More Ultion questions hope some one can help So I created a card for my ninja, I've cut around 50 keys successfully for customers as well as around 10 for some test locks I have in the shop Sunday had 2 back from the same cusotmer, recut, then had to recut again - cant get them to work, done nothing different to any other time and we can still cut to our test locks perfectly fine. It was a wmx The blanks we used were HD X - Could it be the blanks that were the problem? Are silca blanks better and if so what is the X equivalent? That's the first question Second question is what do blank I cut Ultion keys on that begin with an A code? just got my first one in today, oh and can I cut them on the same card I created for the WMX or do they have different depths and spacing? Thanks in advance guys I know someone will come through for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Worksop Heel Bar Posted August 1, 2024 Report Share Posted August 1, 2024 Second questtion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Worksop Heel Bar Posted August 1, 2024 Report Share Posted August 1, 2024 Daveport rep has sent a photo of the keys that have the code starting with A to see about getting blanks sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Worksop Heel Bar Posted August 1, 2024 Report Share Posted August 1, 2024 Keys stamped with X0/X1 - Silca ULT1 Keys stamped with X2 - TX-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted August 1, 2024 Report Share Posted August 1, 2024 15 minutes ago, The Worksop Heel Bar said: Keys stamped with X0/X1 - Silca ULT1 Keys stamped with X2 - TX-22 Anything Above X22 is a different blank. We have sorted our issues with Brisant and only use genuine blanks and have no problems at all with them. We did test some of the TX-22 blanks i was sent as samples and they where hit and miss on my stocked cylinders, some worked some didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Worksop Heel Bar Posted August 1, 2024 Report Share Posted August 1, 2024 2 minutes ago, grahamparker said: Anything Above X22 is a different blank. We have sorted our issues with Brisant and only use genuine blanks and have no problems at all with them. We did test some of the TX-22 blanks i was sent as samples and they where hit and miss on my stocked cylinders, some worked some didn't. Good to know cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkeys Posted August 1, 2024 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2024 Thanks for the replys everyone but does anyone know which blank the A series are cut on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lock&quay Posted August 1, 2024 Report Share Posted August 1, 2024 When using the HDx blank to cut the x version I decode the original key with my Miracle MS10 & add plus 1 to all the cuts . It has worked every time so far . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S K C Posted August 1, 2024 Report Share Posted August 1, 2024 I don’t think there is a blank for the A series yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted August 2, 2024 Report Share Posted August 2, 2024 6 hours ago, Steve B said: I don’t think there is a blank for the A series yet. Genuine only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S K C Posted August 2, 2024 Report Share Posted August 2, 2024 I’ll see if I can buy 1 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkeys Posted August 2, 2024 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2024 2 hours ago, grahamparker said: Genuine only. Looks like ill be ordering this A code from you graham when she comes back in Thanks again everyone, this place is the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted August 2, 2024 Report Share Posted August 2, 2024 Cannot cut them yet, have to buy the locks to get the blanks. Got 1 in as a sample as i thought the Brisant D blanks may have fitted. Not a lock i am interested in selling as we either sell budget (asec vital) or 3 star. We have sold over well over 1000 Asec vital cylinders this year alone but less than 50 3 star cylinders. Never seen the point in 1 star cylinders even if you add 2 star handles to make 3 star certification, for the extra cost you may as well just buy the 3 star anyway. Also avoids repeating stock for each size in each classification. mrkeys and lock&quay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lock&quay Posted August 2, 2024 Report Share Posted August 2, 2024 1 hour ago, grahamparker said: Cannot cut them yet, have to buy the locks to get the blanks. Got 1 in as a sample as i thought the Brisant D blanks may have fitted. Not a lock i am interested in selling as we either sell budget (asec vital) or 3 star. We have sold over well over 1000 Asec vital cylinders this year alone but less than 50 3 star cylinders. Never seen the point in 1 star cylinders even if you add 2 star handles to make 3 star certification, for the extra cost you may as well just buy the 3 star anyway. Also avoids repeating stock for each size in each classification. I'm going to switch from Vital to Iseo R6 EN 1303 as the return on the keys is a lot better , for some reason I find people are happy to pay more for a dimple key . As the R6 doesn't have anti snap the customer can see the benefit up upgrading to a 3star that I've started selling more of also . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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