x5kwp Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Hi Guy's, Has anyone done a Volvo yet, I have the extreme kit & application sheet states S80 = 1999-today = VLMKIT, its on a 54 plate & when I checked on 3D site VLMKIT starts 08-today just wondered if anyone has tried this kit cheers Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock Stock Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Hi Guy's, Has anyone done a Volvo yet, I have the extreme kit & application sheet states S80 = 1999-today = VLMKIT, its on a 54 plate & when I checked on 3D site VLMKIT starts 08-today just wondered if anyone has tried this kit cheers Kev A lot of Volvo's went slot key around 2004 onward so it might not be a normal key anyway. Not sure so best to check with customer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 VLM kit will be a Keyless kit and will be available in the following months. in the meantime, regarding Volvo, we took this video today in Japan, if it helps. S60 model, 2006 model. Carlito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Ive been asked to post up the link to this video of an audi A1 65 plate being cloned to a tkm key this week in manchester , they have cloned 11 different vag vehicles in past 8 days with the longest calculation time being 2 minutes and 4 seconds on these , the cloning calculation times are impressive and reliable. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzfiWs_GhWXuaEMxLUVDR1FoT3M/view?usp=sharing The GK100 update im told is available from this week on Mini and next week on full 884 units , had a look at this yesterday and clones as quickly and efficiently as the tk100 heads , so machines can be updated online . i spoke to keyline yesterday and the GKM glass chips for id48 should be released by end of next month too . in addition ive found when doing id48 cloning , 3 to 4 cycles of ignition when sniffing is sufficient to sniff the data , but thats just my own findings and not official , but hasnt failed me yet and helps reduce the overall cloning time , with the new times its an extremely fast solution ive found . so by the end of june both mini and full 884 users will have a 4 chip solution for cloning ; 1) TK5 for id33 2) TK50 carbon chip for id41 to ID45 3) GK100 chip for 4c , 4d , id46 4) GKM chip for id48 TK23 and TK24 will still be available as will tk heads and tkm heads as well im told . from what ive been told GK100 chips will be available next week or so Carlito 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 correction to above , im told that both the full 884 and the 884 mini can be updated from today to use the new gk100 glass chips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dampants Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Just tried cloning a 2001 Audi TT on to a TKM using the 884 mini and had my first failure. Did the usual 8 times turning in ignition and removing in between went back to the 884 mini, put TKM in and it said something like "Start car more times then insert TKM" (wish I'd done a screen shot). The customer had been chatting when I first went to car so I thought i'd just mis-counted turns. So I tried turning more times, still no joy. Tried different TKM head and also starting procedure from beginning again. But still wont get to the phase 2 calculating stage. If I cancel the process then re insert the TKM it says insert original key, then comes up with the message as before. Only thing that's changed between last key I cloned and this one is a firmware update Anyone any ideas why it wouldn't clone? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 keyline are probably best to answer this one , as they can look at log file for the exact job you failed on . send an email to tech support or maybe carlito can advise on this . ive had similar sniff issues on 46 and 48 in past on a couple that turned out to be a weak ariel ring on the car , the logs from the job will tell them for sure . id check on another vehicle , if as i suspect all is smooth then my guess would be a weak ring or similar on car . we did a good few yesterday after updating kevins mini to latest update and all worked fine still on his , so i doubt its an update issue , but keyline can check this for you if you contact them and if you send them the logs from the failed job , i believe you can send them via your settings panel and diagnostics , but keyline can advise on what to send better . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dampants Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Thanks, I suspected a weak aerial too, but have emailed Keyline, so I'll wait to hear back. Hopefully the customer is calling back on Wednesday so I'll have another crack at it. Does anyone know if there is a maximum amount of times you can turn a uncoded id48 key without causing issues. Don't want to keep trying and end up damaging anything such as fuel pump or even lock ecu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 if needing to redo the sniff , use original key and turn it on and start the car with original , you should be fine to then repeat sniff process as car has been started with original key . silly question , but did you update the pc software as well as the firmware on unit ? as both need updating , i updated my firmware 1st and had issues on gk100 chips , then updated my pc software too and all was good. The new software version of the Keyline Cloning Tool ( pc software ) will be 1.5.3.0The new firmware in the cloning machines after the update will be:884 03.016884Mini 10.20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dampants Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Good point, I was still running 1.4.0.8. Have updated PC as well now. Thanks Glad to hear gk100's have started to come through, had mine on pre-order for a while, hoping they'll arrive soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x5kwp Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Hi Guy's, Just an update on the Volvo s80, the key wasn't a dash key, normal ignition blade remote & with the excellent help of Massimo at Keyline who give me extra instructions (not the screen instructions) I copied this key. The procedure can take up to 2hrs max, which is 3 sniff attempts as follows normal procedure insert original key into 884 (mines the mini) = mobile phone insert TKM Don't follow screen instructions which ask to sniff eight times 1. start car with original key 2. sniff 3 times each time 5 seconds on, key out 3 seconds off, back in 3. insert TKM into 884 mini (you will probably get this message "remove the key, start the car more times and reinsert it") Leave it for 1 whole hour before trying again after 1 hour follow steps 1-3 again (you might get the same message as before, if so leave for 1 hour again) after the hours up follow steps 1-3 last attempt this time the key goes straight through as normal mine was less than a minute, tested several times working perfectly So if you get one to do factor in these 2 hours, I don't think they all take this time cheers Kev Carlito, Lee and ellenwhites 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dampants Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Just tried 2002 Volvo V70 blade type key (VL17U) using firstly normal method (8 times sniff), then secondly the method above as Kev has mentioned (three lots of three sniffs). Had the car for over two hours now but still gives message "start car more times then reinsert it" on second phase of coding Any ideas? Thanks Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted June 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 it might be the same reason as this? http://shoerepairer.info/topic/20310-silca-id48/?p=254953 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted June 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 I did ask keyline, it there heads would keep the info & not reset between sniffs but as yet they haven't replied (asked yesterday) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dampants Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 thanks Lee, customer calling back in an hour with his car again as he needed it back. I'll have another crack and post how I get on. It should in theory keep its memory on the tkm head unless its faulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted June 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 they have confirmed this, so its just a matter of getting to know they grey science of the volvo system & how long it takes between turns in the ignition to get what we need! answers on a post card ASAP, so we all know! Massimo Bianchi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dampants Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 No joy with the volvo v70, though he's bringing it back next week so hopefully Keyline will have an answer by then. On another note did a couple of 2006 DAF 18 tonne trucks the other week. Both had problems due to the RN30U blades being to long and vehicle not picking up TKM. Take TKM head out of blade and put it next to ignition and it works fine, though not ideal! Because of the hole in the end, the blade can't be shortened either. When I get the GKM chips (eventually) in I'm gonna try them in PG30tk case as it slightly shorter in overall length. Massimo Bianchi and Autotechnix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted June 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 For anyone still doubting early comments on the time a tkm head takes to clone, I took this screen shot footage of the procedure today, it included going out to the vehicle (A T5 transporter) and turning the key 8 times in the ignition. total cloning time was around the 4minutes 30 seconds. I guess I'd spent about 5 minutes cutting the blade (including quoting & talking to the customer) so easily under 10 minutes, which isn't a bad profit margin! ellenwhites, Massimo Bianchi, Carlito and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted June 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Just a thought....... a 884 decryptor mini, including TKM for id48 is listed on davenports website for £249.00 I'm not a busy shop by any means but I've done 2 x id48 this week & did 2 last week, if you make £40 a key even a small shop like mine can have that paid for in 4 weeks even if they aren't VAT registered...... why are people waiting for the Silcas to be delivered? most shops can have that mini paid for in a week! Carlito, Massimo Bianchi and ellenwhites 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidlocks Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 lee that will be with the megamoss id48 and not the extreme , so only the non canbus models and just vag non can models . i agree with your point though , ive had the id48 on my 884 for a long while now and its paid for itself , paid for my rw4 plus m box upgrade which i now have too and has turned a tidy profit too , its also far faster than silca unit at present for cloning . ellenwhites, Carlito, Massimo Bianchi and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted June 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 I know there's already a lot of videos now for these, but this one was interesting Nissan proximity key cloning. Carlito, ellenwhites and Lock Stock 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleidaras Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I have this problem with many T6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQPUH88URGg Machine always write IDX not clonable Also if customer allready have key with TK100 (id46) can't clone it again with KL software. Machine give error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleidaras Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Also 884 can't reed honda 8e chip. Keyline write can clone honda accord 2006-2008 but can't do it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYovJUXfN18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted June 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 why would you be taking apart customers keys to read the chips? that seems odd to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleidaras Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 is not customers key. is transponder for test. i have send this video on keyline. Also i have read the transponder out of key on zed full beacouse Keyline told me is new type transponder. is normal t6 transponder the reason i post here is maybe Carlito can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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