sapateiroboneco Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 I have a Pedersen Rapid E outsole stitcher, Just changed the thread. Checked a dozen times to see that it's properly threaded. Problem is, the top thread does not lock. The "jaw" that should lock the stitch opens and closes, but doesn't lock the thread. Does anyone have any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Are you talking whilst stitching?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Have you changed the type of thread you are using? It sounds like the thread lock needs adjusting so try that next. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 The arm on the rapid e is brass and may be worn, try putting the thread around the lock wheel one more time and see what happens, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapateiroboneco Posted August 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 I've tried putting the thread around the lock wheel an extra time, but it still doesn't lock. Alteraing the tension has no visible effect. I had been using a waxed polyester thread, but the thread I have just put in is Standard Geneva thread. It's what I always used to use. Can't see any practical way of adjusting the "jaw". Looks like it would involve dismantling half the machine, unless anyone knows any shortcuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Pedersen is now obsolete but there are some supplies of spares around. However, someone with a manual should be able to help adjust the lock, it must be adjustable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 It is adjustable but it is spring loaded, I think it may be wear. A groove develops in the finger itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapateiroboneco Posted August 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 I have found the manual and adjusted the arm to its limit. It's an improvement, but still not locking the thread completely. Do you think the wear is on the wheel or the arm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 the arm, you may have some success removing it and filing but doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 So it's fookayed by the sound of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Was it stitching OK before you changed the thread?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapateiroboneco Posted August 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Yes it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 So revert back to the thread it was OK on then. Failing that if the arm IS brass as Peter says,........... find someone who is handy at brazing and get it built up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapateiroboneco Posted August 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 WEll, this gives me something to look forward to when I get back from holiday: dismantling an outsole stitcher. Whoopee! I'll try and track down the thread - it was a highly waxed thread that I had obtained from a supplier in France. If that doesn't work, I'll just have to take the stitcher apart. What fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 What cord was it? Was it reverse twist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapateiroboneco Posted August 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 As far as I know it was a braided polyester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Is polyester waxed?? I suspect you were using a waxed linen thread. have a look here http://www.tcolledgeandson.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 It's a shame you can't run the Geneva thread, but we do have alternative linen threads, including reverse, but I'm not sure you need to run reverse thread on that machine, 6 cord waxed should do Our option would be to go with this item from our stock: WA11020/A PM me for price Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercoulson Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Eu acho que pode haver mais do que um problema tópico, você precisa verificar o bloqueio e fazê-lo funcionar corretamente Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 That's as maybe, in the meantime, at least get it working with the thread I've suggested whilst you're looking into a viable fix for your machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapateiroboneco Posted August 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Yes, this one was. I can't get decent quality waxed linen thread in Portugal. Most of our soles are stitched on a Blake Stitcher, in this case a Standard Geneva, for which I use Geneva thread, which I have to send for from England. So I took to using it on the outsole stitcher as well. Came across this waxed poyester thread when visiting a supplier in France a couple of years ago and tried it out. Works fine, with the advantage of being waxed, but only comes in small cops. Finished my last cop and switched back to the Geneva thread that I had been using before. At least if I can get the machine working half decently, it will give me some time to track down the relevant spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 I hate Blakes...........Did someone mention an insole chomper? I have to say I switched over to Polyester on my Victor and had to make a few minor adjustments to make it stitch OK......Also I did find a variation between the White Geneva thread and the Brown Geneva Thread...The white seemed more slippery through the machine than the brown. Which is why I use the brown as my shuttle thread which I still heat and the white as my bottom thread Horses for courses, no 2 machines are the same, you just have to experiment and if it works stick with it. My last job was a pair of stitched on itshide commando soles on a pair of Veldtshoens. Picked out all the old stitching (a must).......... perfect job done. £55 in the till \:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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