Geneva Thread

[Gray]

I have just received a cop of Geneva Thread from Standard Engineering for my Victor stitcher and it has transformed the machine. I can highly recommend this thread to anyone. Previously i was running the bottom thread through liquid wax which was clogging up the rollers and causing tension on the thread. All it needed was a small adjustment to the lock, full instuctions on how to do this were sent with the thread. Using Geneva is a much better setup and is the way forward. Thanks Standard =D> =D>

[petercoulson]

welcome to the 20th century.....

[keithm]

No problem rlj and welcome to the 21st Century

[ironplanet uk900]

I have just received a cop of Geneva Thread from Standard Engineering for my Victor stitcher and it has transformed the machine. I can highly recommend this thread to anyone. Previously i was running the bottom thread through liquid wax which was clogging up the rollers and causing tension on the thread. All it needed was a small adjustment to the lock, full instuctions on how to do this were sent with the thread. Using Geneva is a much better setup and is the way forward. Thanks Standard =D> =D>

 

 

 

 

 

 

welcome to the 20th century.....

 

 

It may be welcome to the 20th century, But it aint as good as a liquid wax thread, if your busy enough on this type of work to keep the wax flowing and preventing it from solidifying.

when the customer has walked through the thread (geneva) it can lead to separation of the sloles, especially if they have middle soles. You don't get that with liquid waxed thread, because it dries hard and forms its own bond to the layers.

 

Although its cleaner, its not a better solution. In my opinion.

[keithm]

It depends to some extent how deep your groove is, as to whether the stitching wears through. Generally, the toe and outside edge wear out before the rest of the sole. Assuming you have replaced a leather sole on a shoe with a middle sole, the most likely problem with seperation, will be between the welt and the middle, as the replacement sole was bonded to the middle sole, so ir held by adhesive and stitches

 

The biggest benefit with 'Geneva' thread is operationally. The type of, and amount of wax on the thread is critical, that's where inferior polyester braids fail. Anyone running 'Geneva' thread on their machines will be better off. If they're not, then their machine needs attention

 

Keith

[ironplanet uk900]

It depends to some extent how deep your groove is, as to whether the stitching wears through.

 

yes it does, but at some stage you WILL wear through the stitches.

 

 

Assuming you have replaced a leather sole on a shoe with a middle sole, the most likely problem with seperation, will be between the welt and the middle, as the replacement sole was bonded to the middle sole, so ir held by adhesive and stitches

 

exactly, thats the point...With liqiud waxed thread, it dries as hard as nails, and will hold all the layers together throughout the life of the repair.

try pulling the stitches out of the welts when the thread has been through a liquid wax pot...its difficult. But on the other hand you can pull geneva thread out in one go.

 

No-one wants shoes coming back for another set of soles, only to see that their last repair is coming adrift, and this can happen with nylon braided threads.

 

The biggest benefit with 'Geneva' thread is operationally. The type of, and amount of wax on the thread is critical, that's where inferior polyester braids fail. Anyone running 'Geneva' thread on their machines will be better off.

 

I agree its cleaner to use, but it definatley isn't a better product than linen thread and a wax pot, not as far as quality workmanship is concerned.