davejones1974 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Does anyome know if or where I can get some sheeting for rock climbing shoes, to replace the soles. I was told it may be called C4 or Stelth, and I know a shoe repairer in Sheffeild repairs them. Any help on this would be great. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x minit uk Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 I can not help, but UK will be along soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 I'm not aware of any sheeting for rock climbing boots. I've always used Vibram units with heavier toe area. I wouldn't have thought sheeting was available. But could be wrong.... Maybe someone else can enlighten us. uk900 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 There are quite a number of material types for this work and they mainly go by the name of "Sticky Rubber" (so that it grips). Very difficult to work with for a start. There are also different thicknesses. My honest advice to you would be to steer well clear unless you have a club near to that has a lot of menbers making it worth while pursuing. You need the manufacturing type lasts to stretch the soles around the uppers, dont think you can scour the sole bottom level and put a flat layer on top as the edges will come adrift in use and you dont want a guy halfway up a sheer rockface when his sole comes off. You may of course know all this but the advice is also given for those who know nothing about it. Most of the guys who carry out this work will not give away trade secrets on this one but I would ask Charles birch as I seem to remember that they did some of this material but it was many years ago, good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Never heard of it Hugh. I think I may be thinking of a different type of climbing boot. I've done hundreds of these in my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x minit uk Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 There is some material thats almost finished like a reverse micro, smooth but plenty of grip , if that makes sense. Nah didnt think it would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Never heard of it Hugh. I think I may be thinking of a different type of climbing boot. I've done hundreds of these in my time. These aint normal Climbing boots, these are Rock Face climbing boots, a sort of glove on your foot with a sole that will grip like shite on a shovel. If you want to see these folks i8n action get to know the name of the female french rock climbing champion then put this into you tube, this gal is effing awsome. You just would not believe what she can do on a sheer rockface. Speed climbing is also a good one to watch, sorry cant provide any links but worth the effort to find them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironplanet uk900 Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Never heard of it Hugh. I think I may be thinking of a different type of climbing boot. I've done hundreds of these in my time. These aint normal Climbing boots, these are Rock Face climbing boots, a sort of glove on your foot with a sole that will grip like shite on a shovel. If you want to see these folks i8n action get to know the name of the female french rock climbing champion then put this into you tube, this gal is effing awsome. You just would not believe what she can do on a sheer rockface. Speed climbing is also a good one to watch, sorry cant provide any links but worth the effort to find them. I see, you mean these man made indoor rock faces.......... sorry I was in the wrong bunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Rock climbers need to feel their feet so don't put any thing to heavy & thick on them. Rock climbing shoes usually have a very thin soling material of around 4 - 5 mm thick, with very little tread but as hugh says very grippy & a high rubber randing for scrambing which is often part of the moulding. there are shoes with a separate randing which can have the soles replaced, but as hugh comments Speed climbing is also a good one to watch, sorry cant provide any links but worth the effort to find them. Having now watched my boy Ross, develop into a climbing wall fanatic & watched the skills of others at the club I am now realising just how much work these shoes do, I think I would be thinking very seriously before taking them on for repair..... Its funny how the whole house becomes a playground for rock climbers! I even spotted Ross going up the stairs via the stairwell the other day, he didn't get away with it! nutter...... Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davejones1974 Posted January 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 I`ve got a pair of rock climbing shoes in my shop, the sole and edging is all about 0.75mm - 1.00mm thick. It looks very possible to repairs these shoes, as the meterial is very thin and durable. Charles Birch say they don`t have any sheeting, so says the girl who answered the phone, may try them again, with that one. If none of you lot know, I`ll have to contact the people who make the climbing shoes. Thanks for helping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Have you tried Algeos http://www.algeos.com/ They have quite a bit of sheeting available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 I`ve got a pair of rock climbing shoes in my shop, the sole and edging is all about 0.75mm - 1.00mm thick.It looks very possible to repairs these shoes, as the meterial is very thin and durable. They look easy but are far from it. That very thin edge is a taper from a 4-5mm centre and not only is it difficult to scive the edge to a uniform thickness all round it is also very difficult to stretch the sole around the uppers. There are different techniques for doing this that cant be written about, you have to be shown, it is like getting a Tennis ball and drawing a line around the middle, then getting a stick-on-sole to wrap around the bottom half up to the line without getting creases in it. Try and scour the skive on this rubber (providing that they will let you have some) and it will melt due to the heat, thats why its called sticky rubber and is like slick tyres for car racing, the hotter they get the stickier they become to give more grip which is just what the outdoor rock face guys are after. I have experience of doing these and will tell you quite openly that you could be playing with fire and could get your fingers well and truly burnt. Things are not what they seem. Proceed with extreme caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davejones1974 Posted January 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Thanks, I`ve had a look at this site, but I`ll call them tomorrow. What I need is a rubber called stealth. I`ve sent a email to a company in the US, so hopefully they may get back to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davejones1974 Posted January 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 The upper first has a piece around the toe area called a rand, this is stuck and tooked under the shoe enabling a sole to glued to the upper, I.E the rand. Anyway I like a challenge, not repaired rock climbing shoes before. What a good way to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Klazykobbler Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Hi I was using some stuff last year it was supplied bu t colledge i think it was called Crepalina could be spelt crepaliner. It i was supplied in sheets really flexible and had the same feel as vibram. I was using it to do toepieces with. i'm sure its a availabe in further sizes could be worth giving t colledge a ring to see if they can send u a small sample. KLazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davejones1974 Posted January 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Thanks, will try them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 THE RAND IS TO STOP THE UPPER FROM WEARING AWAY ON THE ROCKS AND IS SOMETIMES NOT ON PARTICULAR SHOES AS THE SOLE IS EXTENDED TO FORM A ONE PIECE UNIT. (sorry about the capitals but I aint re-typing it) It is interesting work and there should be a lot of opportunities within your catchment area including Buxton. The ones that have the contracts with the climbing schools and private climbers hold their secrets very close to their chests and use blackmail tactics with suppliers (or did), sort of "if you supply Dave Jones at Glossop we will stop dealing with you" Like most sports there are always changes in materials to get the best possible grip and performances, they wont tell what the latest fad is and may send you off on a trip to purchase material that is not used any more. It is interesting and if you can get enough punters it is very lucrative as no-one does a very quick service. I got into it by offering a free repair to a club member in return for word of mouth publicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davejones1974 Posted January 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Thank you for all your help on this matter Hugh. I think I will drink some more red wine and have a think what I can do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-Candoit (ENG) Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Thank you for all your help on this matter Hugh.I think I will drink some more red wine and have a think what I can do... I'll join you Dave..... Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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