Keyline Ninja vs Futura

[keysinthecity]

Sorry for all the recent posts on similar topics. £6000 is a lot of money to spend without doing a bit of research/canvassing opinion.

 

I've seen a bit of love for the Keyline Ninja which I gather predates the Futura. 

 

Someone mentioned it's a quicker machine.

 

Basically I'm interested in:-

 

-Cutting Lowe & Fletcher to code

-Cutting Magnum to code

-Cutting Mul-T-Lock to code

-Cutting Yale Superior to code

-Cutting CISA to code

-Cutting ISEO R6 & R11 to code

-Cutting Eurospec MP10 to code

-Cutting Avocet Pioneer to code

 

I'm interested in the thoughts of members on which machine we should invest in. 

 

It's a tricky decision to make because there are no reviews anywhere online I can find, so it's a decision unlike most other expensive purchases...

 

Thank you!!

[rapidlocks]

The Ninja laser does not cut dimple keys , the ninja laser cuts laser track and edge car keys and hosehold cylinder keys .

 

the ninja Vortex machine cuts dimple keys and laser track keys and coins keys , but doesnt cut edge keys and cylinder keys 

[keysinthecity]

The Ninja laser does not cut dimple keys , the ninja laser cuts laser track and edge car keys and hosehold cylinder keys .

 

the ninja Vortex machine cuts dimple keys and laser track keys 

Thank you - that's helpful

[simong]

so you mean Futura or Vortex which would you pick ?

[rapidlocks]

im not a lover of the 1 machine does all units , i feel alot is lost in build quality and life expectancy as well as speed and reliability in order to get 1 machine to do all . though if lighter use one can do well with them .

 

i see futura and A9 as lighter use machines 

 

id class machines like ninja vortex and ninja laser as medium to heavy use machines , built to last and specialise in what they do 

 

then the heavy use machines like viper , 399 , triax , verso , desmo etc that are built to cut thousands and thousands of keys and truly last .

 

the correct machine really does depend on heavy , medium or light use , whether you need an all in one machine on lighter more varied use,  or seperate heavier duty machines  that fit your needs better if needing heavier specific use .

 

futura is a nice looking piece of kit , but i cant see it giving the years of service that a viper , 399 or triax will give , but it gives a lot of coverage for alot less ,  just as a vortex wont give the same heavy service that a verso will give .

 

theres no right or wrong machine to advise , the best choice is entirely down to the users needs and expectations .and of course budget

 

i have a ninja laser , a viper and a miracle A6 , all are good machines for what i need but viper and ninja laser are in a class of own , what ever avenue you go down , you cant beat keyline or silca on machines for quality and reliability.

ive seen the keyline machines being built in venice which was impressive , and i have had alot of time playing with their entire range , they are exceptional quality and built to last so i must confess to having a liking to them , but i also have a range of silca machines that have also never let me down .