water based glues

[windycity]

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[damen.rudi]

Several years ago I was convinced of the use of water based glues. As we see that it works perfect in the wood industry why shouldn't it work in the shoe repair. So I bought the Aquilim of Renia. That wasn't enough, the water has to get out of the glue so I needed a heating device. This was especially produced by Power for Renia.

Experiment after experiment, sometimes it worked good sometimes it didn't work. The greatest problem is that I had to work in a different way. First glue soles and shoes and put them away for a certain time. Afterwoods heating them up and pressing them. Hammering doesn't work. Glueing on TR is asking for troubles. The TR can't stand the heat needed for glueing and melts away. Otherwise our sole will hold but the factory glue on the upper part won't stand the forces we put on by placing our new sole.

By the way, for putting a new insole you need the normal neoprene glue. The same thing for pieces of leather we want to glue somewhere in the shoe.

Water based glue is wonderful for industrial purpose and for glueing certain soles and heeles but we have so much other different work where we can't use this glue that I ask myself " what is the advantage of still another glue on our shelf?".

When this glue would be such a succes why don't other great chemistries offer them to us? I have never seen a glue of Kommerling, Saba, ...

Something to think about.

Greeting out of Belgium,

Rudi

[Corlas]

Thanks for your very good explanation damen.rudi.

 

Health! from Barcelona

[Hugh-Candoit (ENG)]

Perhaps there are better glues around now? One thing does puzzle me, with solvent based glues you use thinners to help remove them, with water based glues what happens when the shoes get wet?

 

Once dry the adhesive is waterproof, just like Acrylic shoe colouring although some problems developed when the leather soles under test were left soaking in water for a few days. This would not materialise on normal footwear but this was one of the tests that we carried out. The new varieties of Water based glues are much superior to the ones originally tested and are able to be used on a wider variety of materials.

There were several manufacturers with a variety of products, but no one product would stick all materials.

you still need specialist solvent adhesives for the unusual jobs.

Water based adhesives tke a lot of getting used to and as the trend seems to be moving this way through Health & Safety, I would advise getting some and doing your own tests so that you know how to use it when you have to.

I liked it and prefered it but it requires very different techniques and timing.

Customers also have to wait longer.

[petercoulson]

Perhaps there are better glues around now? One thing does puzzle me, with solvent based glues you use thinners to help remove them, with water based glues what happens when the shoes get wet?

 

Once dry the adhesive is waterproof, just like Acrylic shoe colouring although some problems developed when the leather soles under test were left soaking in water for a few days. This would not materialise on normal footwear but this was one of the tests that we carried out. The new varieties of Water based glues are much superior to the ones originally tested and are able to be used on a wider variety of materials.

There were several manufacturers with a variety of products, but no one product would stick all materials.

you still need specialist solvent adhesives for the unusual jobs.

Water based adhesives take a lot of getting used to and as the trend seems to be moving this way through Health & Safety, I would advise getting some and doing your own tests so that you know how to use it when you have to.

I liked it and prefered it but it requires very different techniques and timing.

Customers also have to wait longer.

 

 

merci