key cabin Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Hope someone can come up with an easy and fast solution to this one. I have a silca bravo professional cylinder machine, just lately i can cut 5 keys for a customer and only 2 or 3 will work, so i have changed my blades and give my machine a good clean. I regularly calibrate my machine by using 2 blank keys, i get the machine so that i just get a touch on the other key while the blade is turning. Just got a new cylinder and cut 5 keys for it and all work, so is it a user error,dodgy keys or is my machine due a service? Please help i had a full head of hair this week i am now almost bald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Are there any deep cuts on the keys you are having a problem with ? There is an adjustment that can be made underneath that stops the cutter getting to close to the jaws and this caused me a problem when the machine was new.Bit of a pig to get the right adjustment though. Also have you checked that the cutter is aligned correctly (left to right) as you can adjust this by removing the plastic guard and undoing the alum key then you can move the cutter shaft (only ever needed to do this on a rekord plus but it may be why you are having a problem).Again can be tricky to do. Try using 2 brand new original cut keys that have a back shoulder and align them to the edge of the clamp then check the front guides are also aligned correctly,then set the depth using the 2 keys as you get a better feel as to how close the depth adjustment is when using two cut keys as opposed to blanks. I use 2 ankerslot keys cut them on my unocode then use them to alter the depth settings as required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
key cabin Posted February 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Cheers Graham. Just had a look at the keys that was brought back this morning, and the cuts are not that deep certainly not the deepest cuts we do. This only started a couple of weeks ago, when i got a shipment of new keys. Just had the lady back in with some keys i cut this morning, they too wont work. I have looked at the cuts, and it seems to be the key is not long enough to get the last pin. I am using the u5d from SKS, and i will be on to them on monday to see if they have had any problems with thier stock. Used a 6d to see if they work, will let you know very shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
key cabin Posted February 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Lady just phoned me to say the keys are fine, so this leads me to think the keys are at fault, is anyone else having any problems with the U5D from SKS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkybob Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 had this problem sometime ago, with hd ul1, coudnt get last pin. problem now solved as hd have changed spec on ul1 and ul2 made them slightly wider. you can tell difference by the stamping on the head new one says true universal 5 pin ( on ul1) dont know if yours is the same problem but hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 silca ya1e are also to short if the last pin is a 0 or 1,noticed a lot of blanks don't seem to be long enough bet its down to the bean counters cutting costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKS_User Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Lady just phoned me to say the keys are fine, so this leads me to think the keys are at fault, is anyone else having any problems with the U5D from SKS? What were the markings on the original key? Would like to check this tomorrow when I'm at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
key cabin Posted February 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 The original markings on the key was u5, it is making me think it is the keys because if i cut 10 keys only 2 or 3 are working and if i cut the key on a u6 and grind off the extra they work fine. I got all the keys from the offer you had on just over xmas, it is going to be a bind looking at them all as i got about 1000 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecnoBob Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Now have you checked the key. Counting how many cuts there are.Since there are lot of new 6 pin locks with what look like 5 pin blanks but are just a tad longer than the UL1(HD) but alot longer than a UL2(HD) E & S MP6 Eurospec is one Example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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