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[almeriasecure]

We have a customer with keyed alike euro cylinders and they would like to add a screw in cylinder.

Does anyone know if GeGe do a screw in cylinder in the AP2 profile?

Key blank Silca GE106.

[grahamparker]

Can you not use the Asec kitemarked cylinders Keith ?. They use GE106 as a blank.?

product code AS10176

[almeriasecure]

Cheers Graham.

I kind of guessed that you may have the answer.....................

I have a pair on order and I will update with the results.

[almeriasecure]

Update on results, the asec kite cylinders are almost  perfect.

However, the pins are not the same as the pinning kits as we have in the workshop,

we have contacted Aldridge, without any success as yet.

As the GeGe key blank fits the profile are we right to assume that the pins required are also GeGe.

[grahamparker]

Will the HPC universal pins fit Keith. What diameter are the pins ?. I’m in Jamaica till Tuesday if you don’t get sorted give me a call.

[grahamparker]

6 hours ago, almeriasecure said:

As the GeGe key blank fits the profile are we right to assume that the pins required are also GeGe.

Possibly not mate. The Asec 6 pin pre assembled has slightly different pins to the pinning kit. Possibly down to Chinese manufacturing.

[almeriasecure]

11 hours ago, grahamparker said:

Will the HPC universal pins fit Keith. What diameter are the pins ?. I’m in Jamaica till Tuesday if you don’t get sorted give me a call.

I have many pinning kits including the Labtech which caters for 20 different brands.

Unfortunately, none are suited. All too thin.

I need a replacement battery to measure the diameter with my digital calipers.

[almeriasecure]

On 9/13/2022 at 10:17 PM, grahamparker said:

Will the HPC universal pins fit Keith. What diameter are the pins ?. I’m in Jamaica till Tuesday if you don’t get sorted give me a call.

3.7mm

[almeriasecure]

Correction  3.07mm

[grahamparker]

Just asked Paul to measure and the Asec/Evva pinning kit pins are 3.08. HPC pins are 2.90. 

[HowardK]

I am guessing a screw in cylinder is a mortise cylinder ?

if no proper pin kit or pins to fit,

if the pin chamber diameter is just short of the pin diameter you can in many cases use a number drill bit of the proper diameter and carefully enlarge the diameter of the pin chambers,

I have done this more times then I care to count for offshore cylinders / plugs that have undersized pin chambers by 1 or 2 thousands of an inch,

I tighten the bit into a vise horizontally and carefully spin the plug onto drill bit by hand,

so basically measure pin diameter, choose a number drill bit of the just over closest diameter which is usually within 1 or 2 thousands of an inch and enlarge the pin chambers,

another possibility is to go old school and acquire some welding rod and or hard brass / steel stock from a machine shop or hobby store in a diameter to fit and make your own pins,