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1 hour ago, Growster said:

I am looking for the same, thank you for asking. Ass. Security does it, I heard, but for £££££. It seems that these old keys need an old and by now rare key machine, even though they look like a doddle to decode.

Silca Delta Multicopy still available to purchase.

https://www.aldridgesecurity.co.uk/silca-0503-silca-d813905zb-delta-mc-multi-copy-manual-key-machine.html

 

Getting the correct blank is always going to be an issue with Abloy and most keys cut to code come direct from Assa Abloy.

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The original question was about cutting these keys from pictures. Nobody's bothered to decode it yet so I put it to a blind code of CAA6054935438, at least I think that's correct based on the pictures. When I started out as a hobbyist I'd always decode them first then I can give the customer their key back straight away and let them know when I get a copy made.

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I can't somehow relate your decode to this key. I am interested, because we've started to successfully decode these from photos. Sadly, we can't make them and have to contract the fabrication out.

This becomes worthwhile for Hadak/Kardak safe keys that are really expensive generally.

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On 7/8/2021 at 8:19 AM, Growster said:

I can't somehow relate your decode to this key. I am interested, because we've started to successfully decode these from photos. Sadly, we can't make them and have to contract the fabrication out.

I wrote the code as a blind code. When ordering Abloy keys or handling key cards, you generally don't see them represented as direct bitting but instead as a blind code. They are also written from tip to bow. If you look hard enough you can find a decode chart that enables you to encode or decode bitting to and from the blind code.

11 hours ago, Azaloid said:

on an original Abloy machine the cuts from the tip are 034014035, there is an extra 0 on the tip to allow for it to sit the machine

I think that 5 is actually 4 as it's not in line with the pattern of the bow that points down the key shaft, so I read it as (in your format): 023013024.

I drew a line down the centre of the key:

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I used to work at an Abloy centre and cut lots of these by eye and made up the locks after doing the training at their old head office in Watford, we used to have a reader where the key was inserted and give you the direct cuts and code but that wasn't always available. Granted the section we had was a slightly different blank but i'm pretty sure the cuts were the same. 

in the 3rd original picture i can see 6 different cut depths 0 no cut up to 5 the deepest.

i may be wrong but still going with the 5 on the cut closest to the head.

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16 hours ago, Azaloid said:

in the 3rd original picture i can see 6 different cut depths 0 no cut up to 5 the deepest.

 

On 7/9/2021 at 3:12 PM, Azaloid said:

on an original Abloy machine the cuts from the tip are 034014035, there is an extra 0 on the tip to allow for it to sit the machine

You only mentioned 5 different cut depths, I say yes there are 5 cut depths but I still reckon depth of 5 is actually 4.

I have a High Profile key with both 4 and 5 so you can see a 5 cut would be inline with the key bow pattern and 4 matches the alignment of the original poster's key:

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