Ian platt Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 So we also ha e trouble cutting these on the futura matrix pro no problem !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Clean the jaws and check for Swarf lifting the blanks at the tip. Re-calibrate. I can manually adjust the triax X,Y and Z Axis using the SKP software if it is cutting to deep can you do that on the Futura ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Yes you can adjust x,y and z on futura once you have deocoded key go to manual corrections and lift the z height carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Agree with Graham Swarf on jaws, blank not clamped flat or calibration issue. There should be no requirement to physically adjust the Z axis after decode or entered code. Remember cutting SIP22 on Futura requires 02L Cutter and not 01L Simes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian platt Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 No swarf on jaws, top key was first key cut so recalibrated after that which futura said was fine. This key was code entered from InstaCode 02L Cutter was also used, second key I had to stop machine as I watched it and it started to cut into the actual clamp, it didn’t seem like it was going to stop anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 What version software is it running? Current Software is: Futura 3.15.2 - DB 6.03 Futura Pro 3.17.2 - DB 6.03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Avery Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 What clamps was it in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Should be using 01R-01J-02J and stop 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian platt Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Correct, that’s exactly what was in and all up to date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian platt Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 I’ve had problems with it snapping tracers for a long time, not decoding keys properly, no matter what software version I’m running or how many times I calibrate the jaws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Think you'd best be calling Matt Vince or Lee Young @ Silca Like I said, in another topic, I had one of the first in the UK, it's in a van enviroment cut over 4000 keys and never missed a beat, other than user error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 14 hours ago, Auto Key Wizard said: Think you'd best be calling Matt Vince or Lee Young @ Silca Like I said, in another topic, I had one of the first in the UK, it's in a van enviroment cut over 4000 keys and never missed a beat, other than user error. user error???? you been fraped mate carry on! Lock Stock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 We are all human Joe and can overlook things.... Like trying to cut a key with the 02T tracer still installed after decode. (££'s) Or cutting Side B of HU101 at Stop 2, when Side A has just been cut correctly at Stop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian platt Posted August 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Yeah there’s always user error, I actually caught this one on video, this was after about 4 tracers 12DEC01C-4C02-4F0A-B699-33BBAB3BE84C.MP4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 i dont think you have the drop down tracer on automatic you shouldnt be using any thing other than drop down tracer for ultion keys carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 That shouldn't happen! With 02T's @ £28 a pop, I'd be decoding visually for the time being till it's fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibsjo(SCO) Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 options calibration mobile tracer then tick the box carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Good call Joe It has just occured to me why 02T was being used and not 01T mobile tracer. I set mine up like this since day one. Those 01J & 02J jaws look a mess also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock Stock Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 On 8/17/2019 at 2:07 PM, Ian platt said: Yeah there’s always user error, I actually caught this one on video, this was after about 4 tracers 12DEC01C-4C02-4F0A-B699-33BBAB3BE84C.MP4 Is it decoding other keys correctly or doing this on all? Doesn’t seem electronic contact is being made through tracer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Lock Stock said: Doesn’t seem electronic contact is being made through tracer If that was the case, the tracer would/should have had an issue whilst detecting the jaw before decoding key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamparker Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Shouldn't the decoding tip be pointed ? Or is it an optical illusion. It looks like a flat tip to me or do you decode all keys with this tracer ?. My Triax has 4 decoding tips that i use 2 built in to the machine and 2 that replace the cutters on certain special keys like RPT keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David C Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 59 minutes ago, Auto Key Wizard said: If that was the case, the tracer would/should have had an issue whilst detecting the jaw before decoding key. If a conductivity problem was between the key and the 01J/02J adaptor or the adaptor and jaw then the jaw would be detected but not the key. 43 minutes ago, grahamparker said: Shouldn't the decoding tip be pointed ? Or is it an optical illusion. It looks like a flat tip to me or do you decode all keys with this tracer ?. My Triax has 4 decoding tips that i use 2 built in to the machine and 2 that replace the cutters on certain special keys like RPT keys. A flat tipped tracer could lead to an inaccurate decode but should still detect the key surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian platt Posted August 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Sorry for the late reply, The machine has always asked for 02T tracer for every key it decodes but only started snapping the traces about a year ago, I tried a conductor test from tracer to jaws and tracer to key as your able to see in the options if it is making a connection and both were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Go to 'Set Preferences' and Check 'Use Mobile Tracer' We are all using 01T You've been doing it the hard way (and most expensive way) it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Key Wizard Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 13 hours ago, grahamparker said: Shouldn't the decoding tip be pointed? No, Graham, both the 01T and 02T are flat tipped, and both 0.95 mm in diameter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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