Hond 31

[x minit uk]

Afternoon, I have now cut about 5 of these , all different customers , and each one has failed. I use the jma multi code . Do the silca futura guys have the same problems.

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[simon1]

We cut them on manual machine  and  is easy fast job  

[keySolutions]

Instacode and the Silca Key Program have 2 cards that these can be cut with.
The depth and spacing is the same for the 2, but before the first cut , there is a reduced width section and the width is different for the 2 card.
One is 6.1mm the other is 6.8mm.
You might want to measure if this part of your keys is the same as on the original key.

[grahamparker]

If the keys is worn then I struggle with my Triax to clamp the key and get a correct key code when decoding. If it does not give a key code I change the depths to try and get a valid code.

[x minit uk]

This is the reading that the multi code came up with, the experts at SKS told me any reading with less than a minus 20 should work fine.!!

[keySolutions]

Did some research on these:
Cut 6 on both sides is always a depth 1
Cut 5 on the left side is a 2 for Valet key and 5 for master key.
Cut 5 on the right side is either a 3 or a 5 , depending on the code series.

Based on that and the picture , i would look at code 0L037
Bitting:
211551 - 263351
But it's a long shot.

There may be a code on the glove box lock.
Or could you post a picture of the key

[ponsaloti]

My BD laser fails about 40% of the time on a worn Hon66.

A9P gets it right every time.

When they fail, they wont even go into the door lock which indicates the problem to be at the tip.

Not bothered to look into it but I will if I get  chance to on the next one that fails

[x minit uk]

5 hours ago, keySolutions said:

Did some research on these:
Cut 6 on both sides is always a depth 1
Cut 5 on the left side is a 2 for Valet key and 5 for master key.
Cut 5 on the right side is either a 3 or a 5 , depending on the code series.

Based on that and the picture , i would look at code 0L037
Bitting:
211551 - 263351
But it's a long shot.

There may be a code on the glove box lock.
Or could you post a picture of the key

Thanks for the help, I will try and obtain a picture of the key.

[Auto Key Wizard]

6 hours ago, keySolutions said:

Or could you post a picture of the key

A strange layout on the A and B Axis on that JMA software!

But I got Code K365

Axis B 263351
Axis A 211531

 

Your observations and notes on this HON66 series are spot on, I created these same notes many years ago

Honda HON66 (Silca) cutting notes

Honda EU Vehicles
Silca Card: 2354
I.C. Card: 1341
1.05 (0.041") profile milling

(Note: IS FOR JAPANESE MARKET ONLY
Silca Card: 1587
I.C. Card: 982
1.41 (0.056") profile milling)

Series K685-K999, L001-L348, M001-M696, N215-N718

Master key
Axis B XXXX51
Axis A XXXX51

Sub key
Axis B XXXX21
Axis A XXXX51

Series K001-K684, L349-L999, M697-M999, N001-N214

Master key
Axis B XXXX51
Axis A XXXX31

Sub key
Axis B XXXX21
Axis A XXXX31

Rules:
Axis B first position
Only 1 2 or 3
1 can not be folloed by 2 or 6
2 can not be folloed by 2 3 4 or 5
3 can not be folloed by 6

Axis A first cut never 3

 

[Auto Key Wizard]

25 minutes ago, ponsaloti said:

When they fail, they wont even go into the door lock which indicates the problem to be at the tip.

If cutting as follows, then it will work ignition, but not enter door lock fully

FOR JAPANESE MARKET ONLY

Silca Card: 1587
I.C. Card: 982
1.41 (0.056") profile milling)

Always use the following

Honda EU Vehicles
Silca Card: 2354
I.C. Card: 1341
1.05 (0.041") profile milling

 

[Auto Key Wizard]

On 11/17/2018 at 6:16 PM, x minit uk said:

Do the Silca Futura guys have the same problems

I never have any issues cutting on Silca Viper, Futura or Keyline Ninja Laser

Decoding worn keys can be hit 'n' miss, but armed with good sight reading skills and following a few rules, it's pretty straight forward.